davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Wrong again.
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windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
Tanks, Africa corps, a little before your time. I suppose you haven't engaged, have you?
Dabluez
Player Valuation: £750k
No Dave we know the script now you get pulled on something and you go off on a tangent. Answer the question why wasn't Evra done for using a far worse phrase than puta ?
There's to much water under the bridge mate for any mutual respect with that lot,i have family and friends who support them and when it comes to arguments with them they are on a different wavelength either accusing us of jealousy being bitter or saying murderers is about Hillsborough. The days of the 80s are well and truly gone and our fall from grace as you put it does hurt but when they still haven't apologised over Heysel and have banners in the kop mocking it you'll never get any mutual respect from me and i personally despise them.
Great reference mate, thought of the same scene! Great film.
Regarding our young man, I’m very concerned that this has affected him deeply. I dislike his disappearance from the pitch as I don’t think it sends the right message to him or a wider audience. It feels like the club is making a tacit admission of wrongdoing on his part. He is the aggrieved party here!
I fear lasting damage has already occurred no matter the outcome now.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Allardyce has handled this all wrong.
jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
I dont think anybody has handled it well so far,outside of Everton fans,when does it crop up? Even the so called local paper hasnt shown any interest in it,it was mentioned in passing just after the game,since then every reference to that match is either Holgate should be on trial for attempted murder or he misheard/lied
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Allardyce failed to come out publicly in the same way Hughton did after his player was abused by Rodriguez and Allardyce has dropped him from the team.
he's been abysmal.
jaycee
Player Valuation: £60m
Everybody at the club has though,syraight after it that scruff from the daily fail basically done a character assassination on Holgate and nothing was said in his defence,
Are you talking about racism here? Because that’s what the thread is about. The “just put up with it” attitude of the 70s is exactly why racism is still lingering around to this day.
It seems likely. I guess there are footballing reasons to have sat him out, his form had dipped and to be honest he sort of had a mare during that match. However, it just feels like Mason has been taken outside and dropped in a hole somewhere in punishment for daring to speak up.
The public perception for non partisans cannot help but to notice that Firmino's arc has blown up recently while Mason has completely disappeared from view. I don't like that we, as a club, have perhaps even unwittingly played into that false narrative. The optics stink!
On a macro societal level, what has played out here feels like a text-book scenario of what happens regarding the reporting of any kind of abuse. The victim speaks out, at some peril to themselves, and the accuser's character is attacked viciously from all sides by the accused's defenders.
SAS lad.
Big_nev
Player Valuation: £25m
More like BS you fat mess.
Just had abar 40 pancakes ere lad.
Big_nev
Player Valuation: £25m
Hope you did the right thing and stuck to the Lemon and sugar. Caught my lad having a go of the squirty cream topped with Banana the bad little queef. Hate millennials, ruin everything.
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