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Holgate Racially Abused By Firmino - The Guardian

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It is clear that something was said and equally clear what Holgate believes he heard.

However, you are innocent until proven guilty and I expect the evidence needs to be pretty water tight to convict. Obviously in this case it isn't although you get the feeling from the wording that they are far from convinced that Firmino is innocent.
 
This might be a stupid question, but why are there so many Liverpool fans defending one of their players and attacking one of our players so aggressively? If it was an Everton player accused of racism or making discriminatory comments, I would absolutely not be trying to defend them, even if I thought they had a case, simply out of respect for all of the parties involved.

I certainly wouldn't be attacking Firmino had he accused one of our players of making racist and or discriminatory comments towards him. That's surely a truly delusional level of denial.
 
You don't stick with the facts though; if you did, you couldn't possible be 100% confident of Firmino's guilt, which you have been since day 1. It makes no sense to do so unless you're so completely blinded by the "red mist".
No, I haven't said that at all. I said that Holgate gets my support 100%.

Firmino has been saved from a charge by virtue of the fact that the the FA believe the balance of evidence is not there. That is as far as any "exoneration" of Firmino can or will go. The suspicion is very much in play that he said something that hasn't been able to be verified as the particular word Holgate believed it to be.

Anyway, this is a a cold case claim and cant now be won until such a time as more evidence becomes available. It's open but is cold.
 
This might be a stupid question, but why are there so many Liverpool fans defending one of their players and attacking one of our players so aggressively? If it was an Everton player accused of racism or making discriminatory comments, I would absolutely not be trying to defend them, even if I thought they had a case, simply out of respect for all of the parties involved.

I certainly wouldn't be attacking Firmino had he accused one of our players of making racist and or discriminatory comments towards him. That's surely a truly delusional level of denial.
Exactly. When that beaut Moshiri started on his voodoo nonsense rant against Lukaku many of us called him on it.

You just have to be consistent and make no distinction whether it's your own club or others to retain any credibility. The Kopites (with some honourable exeptions) cant manage that consistency and it's why they are accused up and down and across the breadth of this land as using double standards and always playing the victim card but never accepting responsibility.
 

It is clear that something was said and equally clear what Holgate believes he heard.

However, you are innocent until proven guilty and I expect the evidence needs to be pretty water tight to convict. Obviously in this case it isn't although you get the feeling from the wording that they are far from convinced that Firmino is innocent.
That's about the strength of it mate.
 

RS all signing up today to gloat with what they view as a victory. Systematic of a club that doesn't win anything.

The treble they've won this season so far:

the We Beat City Cup; the 5 Goals in Europe Trophy and now the Firmino is (technically) Innocent League Title


That surely has to make up for not winning the league for 30 years and no trophy at all for 12 years?

Well in Libpoolfootballclub.
 
The treble they've won this season so far:

the We Beat City Cup; the 5 Goals in Europe Trophy and now the Firmino is (technically) Innocent League Title


That surely has to make up for not winning the league for 30 years and no trophy at all for 12 years?

Well in Libpoolfootballclub.

But Rogers won them the CL when they only lost 1 0 to Real Madrid in a group game dont forget.

And he also won them the PL when they finished 2nd. I have seen the T Shirts and everything.
 
But Rogers won them the CL when they only lost 1 0 to Real Madrid in a group game dont forget.

And he also won them the PL when they finished 2nd. I have seen the T Shirts and everything.

Christmas Champions 2013/14
Easter Champions 2013/14

I swear to God I would not be surprised if they start talking about Apertura Champions and Clausura Champions.
 

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