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Howard has finished IFFHS voting as a top 10 keeper in the World 3 times, and he's still quality. He started the season poor but finished strong. He's hardly our biggest problem. If we get 15m to spend from the Fellaini sale, striker is the priority.

What is IFFHS?

Howard's been a good keeper, but he's not been great.

I also agree a top-class striker is a priority, but given the choice I would first get a top-class goalie.
 
What is IFFHS?

Ok, just found it. It's not affiliated to any official governing body.

Here is their list of all-time goalkeepers:

http://www.iffhs.de/?388d85ff8b00388f05f4cbc0385fdcdc3bfcdc0aec70aeedb88419

Here are ones that are interesting to us (and calling him "Timothy Matthew Howard"...is that really necessary?):

1. Gianluigi Buffon
2. Iker Casillas
3. Edwin van der Sar
4. Peter Schmeichel
5. Oliver Kahn
6. Petr Čech
12. Fabien Barthez
13. David Seaman
19. Jens Lehmann
26. Peter Shilton
30. Neville Southall
36. Jerzy Dudek
40. Patrick Bonner
41. Timothy Matthew Howard
42. Manuel Neuer
95. Christopher Woods
117. Nigel Martyn



Manuel Neuer is a superior keeper to Tim Howard. Nigel Martyn's place seems too low, and Howard's too high. Southall should be top 10.


Whatever the IFFHS are basing their rankings on, it's not necessarily related to the reality.
 
Ok, just found it. It's not affiliated to any official governing body.

Here is their list of all-time goalkeepers:

http://www.iffhs.de/?388d85ff8b00388f05f4cbc0385fdcdc3bfcdc0aec70aeedb88419

Here are ones that are interesting to us (and calling him "Timothy Matthew Howard"...is that really necessary?):

1. Gianluigi Buffon
2. Iker Casillas
3. Edwin van der Sar
4. Peter Schmeichel
5. Oliver Kahn
6. Petr Čech
12. Fabien Barthez
13. David Seaman
19. Jens Lehmann
26. Peter Shilton
30. Neville Southall
36. Jerzy Dudek
40. Patrick Bonner
41. Timothy Matthew Howard
42. Manuel Neuer
95. Christopher Woods
117. Nigel Martyn



Manuel Neuer is a superior keeper to Tim Howard. Nigel Martyn's place seems too low, and Howard's too high. Southall should be top 10.


Whatever the IFFHS are basing their rankings on, it's not necessarily related to the reality.

Neither are your or my opinions. I brought it up because it's unaffiliated and not an American contingent who does the voting. It's unbiased as far as I can tell. Perfect? No. But a baseline. And Neuer after his career will be above Howard, I'm sure.
 

You guys are the worst sort of fans ever.

A bad fan accepts mediocrity and turns a blind eye to obvious flaws.

Howard is poor. Yes he does some good stuff, he has good games as well, hes a professional footballer so of course he will. He makes far too many mistakes for such an important position.
 
Neither are your or my opinions. I brought it up because it's unaffiliated and not an American contingent who does the voting. It's unbiased as far as I can tell. Perfect? No. But a baseline. And Neuer after his career will be above Howard, I'm sure.

Hes miles above him already! Its madness to think otherwise.

Lists are just lists. Van Der Saar the third best goalie ever? Do me a favour! Fabian Barthez at number 12?? Jurgen Croy isnt even on the list!
 

Just realised probably the best goalkeeper ever (not named Neville) isnt on the list in Lev Yashin. This list holds no merit. (unless im missing some qualifier that its only of recent time)

Gordon Banks aint on there either.
 
Ok, just found it. It's not affiliated to any official governing body.

Here is their list of all-time goalkeepers:

http://www.iffhs.de/?388d85ff8b00388f05f4cbc0385fdcdc3bfcdc0aec70aeedb88419

Here are ones that are interesting to us (and calling him "Timothy Matthew Howard"...is that really necessary?):

1. Gianluigi Buffon
2. Iker Casillas
3. Edwin van der Sar
4. Peter Schmeichel
5. Oliver Kahn
6. Petr Čech
12. Fabien Barthez
13. David Seaman
19. Jens Lehmann
26. Peter Shilton
30. Neville Southall
36. Jerzy Dudek
40. Patrick Bonner
41. Timothy Matthew Howard
42. Manuel Neuer
95. Christopher Woods
117. Nigel Martyn



Manuel Neuer is a superior keeper to Tim Howard. Nigel Martyn's place seems too low, and Howard's too high. Southall should be top 10.


Whatever the IFFHS are basing their rankings on, it's not necessarily related to the reality.

What a mental list that is!

He is solid and sometimes even spectacular why all the ruckus?

Because we need a better goalkeeper. Why does this post ot surprise me at all?
 

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