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Hypothetical Manager Shortlist No.1

Next manager of our dearly beloved blueboys?


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Well why didn't you say so....kinell!!!


So you want a manager who is crap and wins nothing, so nobody will come calling if god forbid, he actually achieved something?

I knew Everton fans have had the life drained out of them, but this is next level stuff.

Where in hell have I wrote that I want a crap-manager and wins nothing?

I could for example take Eddie Howe and he has not achieved anything, right? Also Sean Dyche has been promoted with Burnley, but that thats not count?

Jesus Christ.
 
Where in hell have I wrote that I want a crap-manager and wins nothing?

I could for example take Eddie Howe and he has not achieved anything, right? Also Sean Dyche has been promoted with Burnley, but that thats not count?

Jesus Christ.
Ermmmm, you admitted you don’t want a successful manager in case he’s snapped up. Tell me I’ve read that wrong.
 
It’s a long shot call and I suggest bigger clubs will be after him following Stoke’s unfortunate demise, but if we can’t get Vitor Pereira, anyone else think we should be in for Paul Lambert?
 
Where in hell have I wrote that I want a crap-manager and wins nothing?

I could for example take Eddie Howe and he has not achieved anything, right? Also Sean Dyche has been promoted with Burnley, but that thats not count?

Jesus Christ.
Howe won't leave the south coast mate, i live down here and by all accounts he has had various offers over the last few years from both home and abroad and he has turned all of them down. Dyche however i do like, i honestly think that he is slowly making himself into the english Simeone and at the right club i do think he could win things, certainly cup competitions anyway. It's taken him a while to get things right with Burnley but he is going in the right direction, im interested to see what they do next season, and id sooner have him over Silva any day of the week.
 
Ermmmm, you admitted you don’t want a successful manager in case he’s snapped up. Tell me I’ve read that wrong.

Yes, you read that wrong.
My focus was specifically on Marco Silva and no one else.

# 2017 (tempted and wanted to leave for Everton after just four month working at Watford)
# 2017 (signed for Hull City and did not wanted to follow the club to the championship, resigned)
# 2015 (signed for Olympiacos and left after a year due to personal reasons)
# 2014 (signed for Sporting and was sacked a year later)

See the point I make here?
 

Yes, you read that wrong.
My focus was specifically on Marco Silva and no one else.

# 2017 (tempted and wanted to leave for Everton after just four month working at Watford)
# 2017 (signed for Hull City and did not wanted to follow the club to the championship, resigned)
# 2015 (signed for Olympiacos and left after a year due to personal reasons)
# 2014 (signed for Sporting and was sacked a year later)

See the point I make here?
Apology accepted.
 
Just read a full breakdown of Silva's record, like it so far
Credit to Steve Ferns on Toffeeweb.
Silva had a mediocre playing career at left back in Portugal. He hung up his boots at Estoril and as he was noted as clever and astute guy he was made a coach and then Director of Football. In his second season, the manager was performing dreadful right from the start and Estoril were in the bottom places in the Portugese second tier. Silva was given a go as manager. He turned it around fast. Bang first season, not even a full season, he won the league from a struggling positon. He even beat Fonseca into third position.

He did this without spending money. Then he took Estoril into the top flight for the first time in a long time. As you say there is a big 3 in Portugal. There is also a clear 4th team, namely Braga. Estoril managed to finish above them. Silva defying the odd to get Estoril to 5th and into the EL. The next season he got them to a record 4th position and EL football again.

He had all the job offers he wanted after promotion. After 5th the big boys came knocking. He wanted to stay, and then after 4th, he felt he had taken Estoril as far as he could and took the Sporting job. That season he finished 5th, Fonseca took a bigger job and got higher in the table. Fonseca again crossed paths the year Silva got 4th. Fonseca had bagged himself the Porto job, but Silva's Estoril shocked Portugal and battered the unbeaten Porto at their ground. Porto were going like a train and were unbeaten and well clear. They then lost the next two games and Fonseca was immediately sacked.

He replaced the current Monaco manager, Leo Jardim. Jardim is a great manager, no doubt, but he had not won a trophy at Sporting. Silva did though. Their first for a long time, namely 7 seasons. All the sporting fans love him, and remember him well.

He then left and won a record breaking league title in Greece, breaking a few records there. Again the greeks remember him fondly as he took them to a new height.

Up to coming to England, he had an unblemished career. There was no period where he was struggling to win games. No matter how small the club, no matter how many players he had to sell to buy, he achieved. He mainly used what he had and developed the teams.

At Hull he took on Niasse. He got a few more castoffs and transformed the team overnight. He got 21 points from 18 games. Steve Bruce resigned from Hull before the season started. He was unhappy with the club for not signing and reinforcing the side. So in came Mike Phelan as caretaker and he had some unbelievable results in the first few games, then he got the job permanently and didn't win again. They were dead last, they were dead and they were buried. Silva's 21 points got them a point total that could have been enough in other seasons. Had he been there for the full season and duplicated it, especially considering he beat Man Utd and Liverpool, then he should have been able to stay up with at least 42 points.

Silva was sacked by Watford. But we wanted him when they were amongst the top 6. They were beating the best. We unsettled him and we unsettled the players. The players were banging on his door asking if he was going to take him with him (my source: The Times). When he was sacked, Watford sat in what would have been their highest finish position for 30 years, and their 3rd highest EVER. Watford had been 17th last season and their form since he left has been at that level as well. Their only period of consistent performance was o his watch. At Watford he had NO input in the signing of players. Watford is owned by the Pozzo family. They run a business and sign scores of players every season and move them around their numerous clubs and sell them to make a profit. They don't care too much about the clubs as they're in football to make money from player sales, just ask Udinese fans and Granada fans. Any money spent by Watford was by their Director of Football who answers directly to the owners who buy what they want.

The guy is a great coach with one blemish in his entire career. He is wounded and he is hungry. He will be determined to restore his reputation and he would the chance to manage Everton. He did everything he could to get the job originally and he is doing everything he can now to make himself available for us.

Marco Silva is a much better coach than many give him credit for. Just ask Jose Mourinho.

Just sayin like
@Bruce Wayne

He should of been doing everything good for Watford, the fact he couldnt says a lot about him, besides, he might of done ok by Watford and Hulls stardards, but ours are much higher and always have been. Just not good enough.
 

I’d accept Silva, could be somebody we could get behind with his brand of football, especially if he gets a good defensive coach in (or Brands does, or whoever is in charge of these things) were not going to get Emery or Simeone.
 
Yes, you read that wrong.
My focus was specifically on Marco Silva and no one else.

# 2017 (tempted and wanted to leave for Everton after just four month working at Watford)
# 2017 (signed for Hull City and did not wanted to follow the club to the championship, resigned)
# 2015 (signed for Olympiacos and left after a year due to personal reasons)
# 2014 (signed for Sporting and was sacked a year later)

See the point I make here?
How does that compare to Fonsecas stay at previous clubs?
 

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