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I remember a few months ago, when certain posters were laughing...

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Interesting...

****e players = better football, flash in the pan season, then back to the championship.

Good international players = ****e football, yo-yo seasons, stay in the prem.

Isnt that a bit Sam Allardyce-esque?
 
nsno-chris said:
To be honest we hear this almost every years; there is always one manager or team that will come and impresses either with nice football or battling qualities.

Steve Coppell at Reading, Phil Brown at Hull, Owen Coyle at Burnely then Bolton, Ian Holloway at Blackpool.

Then guess what happens, the following season or maybe, if they are lucky, the season after they go down. Why?? Because teams find them out, discover there pattern of play, the weaker players they have get exposed and made to look exactly what they are....Championship players.
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Agree with pretty much all of that, although i really don't think Swansea are comparable to Hull or Blackpool and that if you looked at the way they play football you would see that. I also don't think any of the above teams were above us in the league at this point in their respective PL seasons.

But i'm not asking Moyes to play the way Swansea play all the time anyway, i'm simply wondering why it is that Moyes can't get the players he has (which includes several internationals, as he loves to point out) playing any kind of football other than defensive minded rubbish. You can play different ways without getting relegated.

More stats:

Hull P29 GD -16 PTS 33
Swansea P29 GD 0 PTS 39
 

MoutsGoat said:
KB played the Allardayce card



Checks wiki.
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Already done so boss man -

BOLTON:
FA Cup - Semi-Finals 1999-2000
1st season in the Premier League - 17th - 2002-2003
2nd - 8th - 2003-2004
Carling Cup - Final 2003-2004
3rd - 6th - 2004-2005
4th - 8th - 2005 - 2006
UEFA Cup knockout stages

Mega-gash football, decent finishes.

On par with Moyes?
 
kenada_blue said:
Already done so boss man -

BOLTON:
FA Cup - Semi-Finals 1999-2000
1st season in the Premier League - 17th - 2002-2003
2nd - 8th - 2003-2004
Carling Cup - Final 2003-2004
3rd - 6th - 2004-2005
4th - 8th - 2005 - 2006
UEFA Cup knockout stages

Mega-gash football, decent finishes.

On par with Moyes?
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In his final four seasons at Bolton, Allardyce had recorded consecutive top ten finishes, a record of consistency bettered only by the big four of Chelsea, Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal
 
Brennan91 said:
Agree with pretty much all of that, although i really don't think Swansea are comparable to Hull or Blackpool and that if you looked at the way they play football you would see that. I also don't think any of the above teams were above us in the league at this point in their respective PL seasons.

But i'm not asking Moyes to play the way Swansea play all the time anyway, i'm simply wondering why it is that Moyes can't get the players he has (which includes several internationals, as he loves to point out) playing any kind of football other than defensive minded rubbish. You can play different ways without getting relegated.
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I do like the way Swansea play, but I really think next year they will be struggliong, Rodgers failed terribly at Reading with a very good squad, Swansea could just be the right club for the right man.

Mate, it frustrates me going to Goodison and seeing negative boring football from who says he believes in the dutch total football concept. He's either to scared to deviate from the 4-5-1/4-4-1-1 because it was quite successful for him or he's just sh!t at tactics; to be honest he fell into that 4-5-1 formation, for some bizzare reason he just had the right personnel at the right time in that 04/05 season.

The purchase of Cahill was a fluke that he fitted perfectly behind the striker, same with Bent being able to run and run into corners while freeing Cahill up, having Carsley already there, not knowing he was a perfect holding midfielder. That Man United game away (the 0-0) made Moyes at Everton, if he wouldn't have fallen on that formation I really don't think he would still be here
 

kenada_blue said:
Spent less money that us as well....


My days that's gonna hurt some people....
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He said top ten finishes. Not top four. That means he could have finished 11th.

Whereas Moyes has finished in the top four. And higher than 8th in the majority of his seasons with Everton.

But hey. Lets not the fachts get in the way here.
 
I think the point is getting lost here in a wave of popcorning nonsense. The point being that Moyes is a ****!
 

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