If Moshiri wasn’t buying a new stadium would you turn on him like Peter Johnson?

[Mrtallywacker]

Poll attached.

Good question my son. When the stadium gets built and even if he's built a top class side I'll still turn on him.
Proper edgy super bloo me. NSNO.

God bless.

 

[twoblue]

What's the point in having money but having no clue whatsoever and being wrongly advised?
The only reason he's here is to build a new stadium and make shed loads of money from the commerce surround and infrastructure that will follow.
What's the point in welcoming a new stadium whilst we're in the championship?
Moshiri is taking us backwards and dividing the support but he'll hang around long enough to make a financial killing and then go on to another project caring not a jot where the club is in footballing terms.

I’m fairness if he wants to make money he has to get the stadium and team right.

 

[ritterefc]

Thats a really interesting question. Look at the players we actually bought on his watch... it wasn't a lack of money, it was a lack of competence. i was at the spurs game where it really turned nasty. there are a load of parallels - good costly players who just didn't perform and didnt care, bad manager appointments.... but overall - no - there was something REALLY broken about everton back then, really really broken

 

[Cookmysock]

Johnson needed to be ousted doing business behind managers back selling players and having a team full of ageing players who were managed by grey faced mr miserable smith .in all the team were pretty awful football was too and i remember it being hard to drag myself to the game at times.
Moshiri has wasted opportunity money time by not getting decisions right reguarding managers maybe hes being a bit more careful with his money maybe hes had his fingers burnt writing cheques too quick to sign players for silly fees silly wages and manager payoffs so if hes being a bit cautious its understandable. l will want him gone if he starts a johnson type flash sale of assets without re investing.

 

[Ihaters]

I am not being overly critical of him because he has done all of the above. But the blueprint needs to be more than that.
You can see Leicester’s, you can see Southampton’s, even villa.
When hiring a manager he needs to saying what he wants to achieve and the director of football needs to be policing an overriding policy. This is what has been missing

You accuse him of both not setting objectives and of rotating managers.
I would suggest he has both set requirements and subsequently removed managers that have been failing to achieve them.
Can't imagine any player or member of staff would be hired without clear objectives being set first.

Out direction is fairly clearly to push forwards, money has been spent, stadium being built, top managers appointed and backed etc, everything we could ask... But...
Individual, team and tactical errors have kept us back as globally renowned managers and players underperformed. You can talk blueprints all you like and blame DOF failures, but Moshiri put last season on a plate for us, everything was set for improvement as shown at the early part of the season, and yet everyone let us and him down.

Don't get how anyone can be blaming him, short of bringing in Messi and Ronaldo but on the cheap to fit ffp he has done everything he could imo.

 

[bluecanada]

Was he there today?

 

[Johnny_s]

I almost feel second hand embarrassment for former good blues, who have debased themself in the name of banter or even worse a genuine belief that they should hate the club because of who it has employed.
Feels even worse in this case cause I’ve enjoyed KA on Twitter. Oh well you either die a hero or live long enough to become a tosspot.

 

[twoblue]

I almost feel second hand embarrassment for former good blues, who have debased themself in the name of banter or even worse a genuine belief that they should hate the club because of who it has employed.
Feels even worse in this case cause I’ve enjoyed KA on Twitter. Oh well you either die a hero or live long enough to become a tosspot.

You accuse him of both not setting objectives and of rotating managers.
I would suggest he has both set requirements and subsequently removed managers that have been failing to achieve them.
Can't imagine any player or member of staff would be hired without clear objectives being set first.

Out direction is fairly clearly to push forwards, money has been spent, stadium being built, top managers appointed and backed etc, everything we could ask... But...
Individual, team and tactical errors have kept us back as globally renowned managers and players underperformed. You can talk blueprints all you like and blame DOF failures, but Moshiri put last season on a plate for us, everything was set for improvement as shown at the early part of the season, and yet everyone let us and him down.

Don't get how anyone can be blaming him, short of bringing in Messi and Ronaldo but on the cheap to fit ffp he has done everything he could imo.

Ok the blue print need to change then. I’m not knocking the ambition, I’m suggesting the plan isn’t working. We are signing players that have big wages and none of which have improved us.
This year ha seen a change, let’s cross our fingers hopefully let’s s see a changed.

 

[twoblue]

You accuse him of both not setting objectives and of rotating managers. I would suggest he has both set requirements and subsequently removed managers that have been failing to achieve them.
Can't imagine any player or member of staff would be hired without clear objectives being set first.

Out direction is fairly clearly to push forwards, money has been spent, stadium being built, top managers appointed and backed etc, everything we could ask... But...
Individual, team and tactical errors have kept us back as globally renowned managers and players underperformed. You can talk blueprints all you like and blame DOF failures, but Moshiri put last season on a plate for us, everything was set for improvement as shown at the early part of the season, and yet everyone let us and him down.

Don't get how anyone can be blaming him, short of bringing in Messi and Ronaldo but on the cheap to fit ffp he has done everything he could imo.

Ok the blue print need to change then. I’m not knocking the ambition, I’m suggesting the plan isn’t working. We are signing players that have big wages and none of which have improved us. Not one of which has been sold for a profit or proven hugely successful. When he arrived we had lukaku and John stones. No one has replicated their success.
I’m excited as anyone to sign james Rodriguez, but I’m realistic to know we should be purchasing 3 Godfreys (eg young up and coming players from
Championship) to fill the squad for every one sexy South American signing.
we need to build the squad foundations rather than a quick fix. This is where the blueprint has failed.
Ambition wise 9/10, delivery it’s been 5/10 - we haven’t progressed.
Ultimately we are on the same side, we want the team to do well. Let’s hope lessons have been learned and we move forward from here.

 

[Death]

We need statues of Bill explaining the offside rule to Mosh outside the new stadium.

 

[CairnsToffee]

 

[Noble Savage]

Always an element of luck though isn't there in decision making - Everton trying to sign Demba Ba but given Lukaku instead is a perfect example.

Is that true ? Dear god . Just think .

 

[mccole]

To Moshiri's credit he has given us the money to bridge the gap but ultimately his board/decisions/ideas/brainfarts choices have put us in the mud.

In the five years or so he has been here, the bigger clubs have spent equal amounts but obviously attract bigger/better players, we over spend on "finished" product of lesser players.

I think had Moyes or Carlo or even Benitez been managing us at the time Koeman took over, we would have signed a far more team player than individual and in a key areas.

Koeman's first season he had Lukaku, Rat Barkley, Gueye but we had a young keeper in Robles, aging defence, no wingers and over-reliance on Lukaku.

Koeman brought in Ashley Williams, Bolaise, Schneiderlin for £58 millions - he didn't have a clue. His second season was the nail in the coffin after selling Lukaku and Rat Barkley being a utter C U Next Tuesday!

Koeman's appointment was Moshiri's Mike Walker. And we still haven't recovered

 

[Ihaters]

Ok the blue print need to change then. I’m not knocking the ambition, I’m suggesting the plan isn’t working. We are signing players that have big wages and none of which have improved us. Not one of which has been sold for a profit or proven hugely successful. When he arrived we had lukaku and John stones. No one has replicated their success.
I’m excited as anyone to sign james Rodriguez, but I’m realistic to know we should be purchasing 3 Godfreys (eg young up and coming players from
Championship) to fill the squad for every one sexy South American signing.
we need to build the squad foundations rather than a quick fix. This is where the blueprint has failed.
Ambition wise 9/10, delivery it’s been 5/10 - we haven’t progressed.
Ultimately we are on the same side, we want the team to do well. Let’s hope lessons have been learned and we move forward from here.

Again, delivery is not down to him.
But be it Kean, Nkounkou, DCL, Gordon, Davies etc, a mixture of youth academy and improving our youngsters has been in place alongside big money signings for a long time. Not a footballer factory like Chelsea admittedly.

We have also bought cheap players, but regardless, I am amazed he's getting backlash for trusting and backing his managers with the players they request.

Obviously we both want the same thing but the poll is whether he is destroying our club and thread is whether we should turn on him, both of which seem massively way off the mark to me.

Brands however...

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Wouldn't turn on him, he just needs to brush up on running a footy club though.