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James McCarthy

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good player like, but our problems aren't really down to any one player

They are not but when he plays we tend to do well - this is shown in the amount of games we have won with him in the team (than without him in the team).
 
They are not but when he plays we tend to do well - this is shown in the amount of games we have won with him in the team (than without him in the team).
those stats can be a bit false, I'd rather have him fit obvioulsy, but if we think a magic wand will be waved with one player coming back I don't think it will, he'll help, but weve been pretty tosh all season, a few matches aside
 
those stats can be a bit false, I'd rather have him fit obvioulsy, but if we think a magic wand will be waved with one player coming back I don't think it will, he'll help, but weve been pretty tosh all season, a few matches aside


I am happier Stones is RCB, and prefer Jags at LCB (than any of the others). Robles has supprised me a bit, but he is work in progress. We still need a very good GK. Aston Villa at times are very poor, but when they win or draws games, it is down to there keeper, keeping them in games. Robles was not really tested against West Brom. If we got a good keeper now, then replace Jags in the summer, the defense should be ok.
 

I am happier Stones is RCB, and prefer Jags at LCB (than any of the others). Robles has supprised me a bit, but he is work in progress. We still need a very good GK. Aston Villa at times are very poor, but when they win or draws games, it is down to there keeper, keeping them in games. Robles was not really tested against West Brom. If we got a good keeper now, then replace Jags in the summer, the defense should be ok.
The first choice defence might be okay but beyond that we'd be struggling LB aside.
 
I am happier Stones is RCB, and prefer Jags at LCB (than any of the others). Robles has supprised me a bit, but he is work in progress. We still need a very good GK. Aston Villa at times are very poor, but when they win or draws games, it is down to there keeper, keeping them in games. Robles was not really tested against West Brom. If we got a good keeper now, then replace Jags in the summer, the defense should be ok.

The defense won't be ok till we swap managers or he has a major rethink about his tactics.

If you think the problem is we need to replace Jags then your blind to the real problems.

To have a team with the quality ours pocesses to be flirting with the bottom 3 is a managerial fail of the highest order!
 
Can't wait to have McCarthy back but will be livid if it means (and it probably will) Besic is dropped while Barry remains in the side.
 
Can't wait to have McCarthy back but will be livid if it means (and it probably will) Besic is dropped while Barry remains in the side.

While Barry has been a little better as of late, I completely agree with you.

Besic and McCarthy would be a monster pairing.

The Goodison pitch would just be mud after 90 mins.
 
While Barry has been a little better as of late, I completely agree with you.

Besic and McCarthy would be a monster pairing.

The Goodison pitch would just be mud after 90 mins.

Not a scrap of creativity between them. Would be great for the big away games just to lock everything down but how are those two going to unlock a WBA at home? (Especially when the wide players are Naismith and Barkley). I agree though that its a better option than putting Barry any where in the team.

I'd really like to see Besic holding by himself then Bakley and McCarthy ahead of him in a three. Least we'd have powerful box to box runners from deep. Two holding mids holding hands with the centrebacks and Barkley upfront with Lukaku is just not working. I want to see a return to the 4141 of 04/05. 4231 is killing us at the moment.
 

Not a scrap of creativity between them. Would be great for the big away games just to lock everything down but how are those two going to unlock a WBA at home? (Especially when the wide players are Naismith and Barkley). I agree though that its a better option than putting Barry any where in the team.

I'd really like to see Besic holding by himself then Bakley and McCarthy ahead of him in a three. Least we'd have powerful box to box runners from deep. Two holding mids holding hands with the centrebacks and Barkley upfront with Lukaku is just not working. I want to see a return to the 4141 of 04/05. 4231 is killing us at the moment.
I do think Besic has the passing range to be more than a destroyer, players have played in a creative manner before from deep, if we can get some confidence back into him, Barkley and Besic looked a combination worth exploring, but the gaffers barry fetish prevented that, it wasn't a flat two DCM system then either, but again Martinez is quite rigid with having that, it's a shame he isn't so insistent on balance in other areas of the pitch
 
As I wrote in another thread

I actually think our current problems might be a speed thing.
The type of game Martinez wants to play has a specific tempo, any slower than that (through lack of confidence etc) then we get closed down and it spirals. Any quicker than that tempo then passes get missed and possession never gets anywhere. I think McCarthy actually naturally plays at Bobby's ideal Tempo which sets the rhythm for the rest of the team and it's why we struggle without him.

It was noticeable from the first West Ham game that we were trying to get the tempo up, and when we did we started to look our old selves again. Unfortunately without McCarthy our tempo is too inconsistent. I don't actually think we are doing anything wrong as such, but it's not working. It's either going to have to change or we get our Ginger timekeeper back to make it work.

Re: the Barry thing, He does give us a range of accurate long passing that the others don't which seems to be PlanB at the moment hence he's undropable. When McCarthy is back and we've got our balance back then Barry's pros will become less important and he'll be dropable.
 
As I wrote in another thread

I actually think our current problems might be a speed thing.
The type of game Martinez wants to play has a specific tempo, any slower than that (through lack of confidence etc) then we get closed down and it spirals. Any quicker than that tempo then passes get missed and possession never gets anywhere. I think McCarthy actually naturally plays at Bobby's ideal Tempo which sets the rhythm for the rest of the team and it's why we struggle without him.

It was noticeable from the first West Ham game that we were trying to get the tempo up, and when we did we started to look our old selves again. Unfortunately without McCarthy our tempo is too inconsistent. I don't actually think we are doing anything wrong as such, but it's not working. It's either going to have to change or we get our Ginger timekeeper back to make it work.

Re: the Barry thing, He does give us a range of accurate long passing that the others don't which seems to be PlanB at the moment hence he's undropable. When McCarthy is back and we've got our balance back then Barry's pros will become less important and he'll be dropable.

besic's long passing is far superior to barry's floated pokes forward
 
As I wrote in another thread

I actually think our current problems might be a speed thing.
The type of game Martinez wants to play has a specific tempo, any slower than that (through lack of confidence etc) then we get closed down and it spirals. Any quicker than that tempo then passes get missed and possession never gets anywhere. I think McCarthy actually naturally plays at Bobby's ideal Tempo which sets the rhythm for the rest of the team and it's why we struggle without him.

It was noticeable from the first West Ham game that we were trying to get the tempo up, and when we did we started to look our old selves again. Unfortunately without McCarthy our tempo is too inconsistent. I don't actually think we are doing anything wrong as such, but it's not working. It's either going to have to change or we get our Ginger timekeeper back to make it work.

Re: the Barry thing, He does give us a range of accurate long passing that the others don't which seems to be PlanB at the moment hence he's undropable. When McCarthy is back and we've got our balance back then Barry's pros will become less important and he'll be dropable.

I don't necessarily agree mate.

What difference would a fast player make against a team like West Brom who just sit back on the edge of their area and block the entire length of the midfield?

We are fine doing it against teams who want to actually have a go at us, like the West Ham game you mention. But if a team doesn't come to win, we can't break them down.
 
besic's long passing is far superior to barry's floated pokes forward

Not in any game this season it isn't, recently Besic has been trying to ping it out to the wings but he's pretty hit and miss with it. It's been Barry's long balls that have been the entire 'going long' shift in the last few games. PlanB is get the ball to Barry to lob it up front.
 

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