John Stones transfer saga

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JustOpp said:
Yes, I should've noted that's a baseline number.
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Sorry dont exactly understand what you ment by that but Im sure every team would love to have English international and future captain of national team in their ranks especially when theres up coming games. Jesus...we have a real diamond here.
 

MoutsGoat said:
He didnt call us small, he simply said we arent big and hes right.

The memories of 85 are fading in my drug addled memory, but they are there and at that time, we were probably the best club in the world, but that was 30 years ago, its 20 years since we won even a pot and our highest finish recently has been 4th, once.

We have a rich history and have won loads, but the here and now, we are an also ran of a club, fighting against our "betters", I love Everton, its my life, but we are no longer a big club and we probably havent been 1 since Sky invented the Premier League.

Wake up and smell the coffee lads.

We as fans still believe in NSNO, but sadly its unrealistic these days.
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Are you old enough to remember 95??
 

JustOpp said:
I've done a bit of quick maths (which might have holes in it) on the financial reality of waiting a year. Realistically, in order for it to make any sense to wait a year to sell Stones, the fee would have to be more than £60 million (assuming the £35 million valuation is remotely accurate). Edit: That does not factor in performance-based changes in value.

Based on the new TV deal, Everton's gross income is set to increase ~33%, putting Stones' valuation somewhere around £45-51 million next summer, although that doesn't factor in the percentage increase for other clubs. Conceivably, Stones' value in comparison to other players could be closer to £55 million.

That speculative £10 million surplus vanishes quickly:

1) Other European clubs are likely to increase their transfer fees by English clubs' profit boost (as opposed to gross income boost), because that's their best bargaining position. They'll only care that Everton are making £40 million more per season and try to get as big a cut as possible. Without time travel, right now is the best time to for Premier League clubs to buy players from outside of England.

2) Instead of negotiating contracts for incoming players this year (again, before the increase in income) and holdovers next year, Everton will have to find a way to do both in one summer whilst dealing with the wage increase cap.

The true benefit to waiting until next year is in having the ability to arrange incoming transfers well before the season starts. From a financial standpoint, the best case scenario might have been a bid between £35-40 million on July 1 of this summer.

Regardless, keep Stones and win the league.
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@bizzaro, please crunch these numbers and confirm.
 

JustOpp said:
I've done a bit of quick maths (which might have holes in it) on the financial reality of waiting a year. Realistically, in order for it to make any sense to wait a year to sell Stones, the fee would have to be more than £60 million (assuming the £35 million valuation is remotely accurate). Edit: That does not factor in performance-based changes in value.

Based on the new TV deal, Everton's gross income is set to increase ~33%, putting Stones' valuation somewhere around £45-51 million next summer, although that doesn't factor in the percentage increase for other clubs. Conceivably, Stones' value in comparison to other players could be closer to £55 million.

That speculative £10 million surplus vanishes quickly:

1) Other European clubs are likely to increase their transfer fees by English clubs' profit boost (as opposed to gross income boost), because that's their best bargaining position. They'll only care that Everton are making £40 million more per season and try to get as big a cut as possible. Without time travel, right now is the best time to for Premier League clubs to buy players from outside of England.

2) Instead of negotiating contracts for incoming players this year (again, before the increase in income) and holdovers next year, Everton will have to find a way to do both in one summer whilst dealing with the wage increase cap.

The true benefit to waiting until next year is in having the ability to arrange incoming transfers well before the season starts. From a financial standpoint, the best case scenario might have been a bid between £35-40 million on July 1 of this summer.

Regardless, keep Stones and win the league.
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Except the new TV deal doesn't kick in next year, starts paying out in the 2016/17 season
 
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Quote this.....
 

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