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I dont think Barry should be there myself, hes a cracking player for us, but his legs do appear to go in the later stages I feel, he would melt in Brazil.
bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
Has a habit of kicking out at players who go past him as well. The cynical square jawed hero.
Sylvain Distance
Player Valuation: £225k
Everton's very own 'Kaiser'
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Agree with that like, from a selfish point of view i don't want him to go as we need hiom to rest and recuperate in the summer to be ready for the new season (assuming we do sign him which looks a cert)
with Gerrard being a 100% certain starter he needs someone next to him to do all the running tbh, which is why i reckon henderson will get the nod - to bad mccarthy wasnt english as hes the perfect type for that
Sturridge
Lallana - Rooney - Ox
Barry - Gerrard
Baines - Cahill - Jags - Johnson
Hart
That's if you really wanted to try and make it out of group before being knocked out. Otherwise I'd go:
Sturridge
Lallana - Barkley - Oxlade-Chamberlain
Henderson - Gerrard
Baines - Stones - Jags - Flanagan
Hart
Shaw, Sterling, Rooney and some others on the bench. Aim to get players experience for the Euros. England seems pretty weak in young DCM players looking at it, so I guess Gerrard gets it based on captaincy and the value in having a few experienced players on the pitch.
Lallana - Rooney - Ox
Barry - Gerrard
Baines - Cahill - Jags - Johnson
Hart
That's if you really wanted to try and make it out of group before being knocked out. Otherwise I'd go:
Sturridge
Lallana - Barkley - Oxlade-Chamberlain
Henderson - Gerrard
Baines - Stones - Jags - Flanagan
Hart
Shaw, Sterling, Rooney and some others on the bench. Aim to get players experience for the Euros. England seems pretty weak in young DCM players looking at it, so I guess Gerrard gets it based on captaincy and the value in having a few experienced players on the pitch.
Blue Truth
Player Valuation: £25m
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
Hart? is he really England's best GK?
toffeejack
Player Valuation: £100m
flanghan? why do people say this name?
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
...they've had a flagon??
The Hibbert Agenda
Player Valuation: £20m
not sure if this has been shared elsewhere on the forum but great little piece
http://www.therussianlinesman.com/blog/jagielka-stones-time-come-martinez-start/
Jagielka or Stones? The time has come for Martinez to start both
Posted: 4th April 2014 by Chris Smith
David Moyes had a tendency to leave transfer business until the eleventh hour at Goodison. “He’s maybe one for the future” became the defence mechanism catchphrase of his apprehension towards recruited youth. January was generally a missed opportunity. John Stones, signed on deadline day during Moyes’ final transfer window, personifies this narrative. And yet just nine Premier League matches into his Everton career, Moyes’ last ever signing at Goodison has impressed enough to suggest he may well become his greatest.
The irony is that Moyes pipped successor Roberto Martinez to the youngster’s signature, which does raise a question: why were the two men battling for a youth player during their final moments of legacy-carving? They knew they were probably leaving and pursued a player they’d most likely never see. Clearly, scouting reports were persuasive – if a player like this is available, you sign them straight away. Whatever the managers’ respective reasons, Martinez had other ideas about Stones, and converted him to a centre-back immediately during pre-season. Since then, as Everton have cast off the shackles of Moyes’ get-back-behind-the-ballism, it has become increasingly obvious that Stones is cut out for figurehead status in Martinez’s new-look side. Whilst his physical attributes – namely height and pace – are fairly common traits for positional counterparts, Stones’ coolness in possession, awareness of his peripherals, and exquisite execution set him apart from nearly every English centre-back who has come before him. Excitingly, his best game is more often than not his last one.
Stones made his first league start during a blisteringly blustery afternoon away to Stoke alongside Antolin Alcaraz, himself making only his second appearance for the club. A rather flat contest ended 1-1 but Stones’ remarkable composure stuck in the mind, as, three weeks later, did the sight of him stood side-by-side captain Phil Jagielka assisting and reassuring the broken leg-afflicted Bryan Oviedo. A hamstring strain to Jagielka has allowed Stones to enjoy a run of five consecutive starts, and it’s fair to say Evertonians have enjoyed them too well with not a single point dropped in that period. Jagielka will likely be fit for this weekend’s crunch game with Arsenal which naturally beckons the question of whether or not he should replace the youngster in the starting line-up. To reduce the issue to the here and now misses the point. Like Ross Barkley, Stones’ only real deficiency – a lack of experience – is easily remedied by a sustained run in the first team, but Jagielka is Everton’s captain and a thoroughly admirable one at that, besides he is arguably his country’s finest centre-half. Which brings us to Sylvain Distin.
Originally brought in as an experienced Joleon Lescott replacement, Distin has performed consistently well for his entire Everton career. Aged 36 however, he is too old to build a team around and too old to keep either Everton’s captain or there precocious 19-year-old out of the side. Furthermore, the Frenchman lacks Jagielka’s organisational influence. Distin is superb at reacting; his pace belies his years, his strength eradicates danger and his physical determination has often set the tone for defiant displays, but Jagielka’s ability to drag his back four higher, or order it back when necessary, and generally spot and plug gaps in Everton’s defence is far more beneficial to the team. More pertinently, it’s far more beneficial to Stones. Distin is physically reactive, Jagielka is mentally aware, only the latter constitutes transferable skills.
Stones’ defensive repertoire is still somewhat sketchy. He heads the ball back into dangerous areas, concedes space at the back post and is prone to occasional passing lapses, but these are miniscule concerns in context. Whilst he will naturally correct them as he develops, placing him alongside Jagielka will expedite the process. As soon as Stones breaks into England’s senior team, he will not be leaving the squad until he retires. Who better for club, country and player to teach Stones than Jagielka, himself destined to command England’s back four in Brazil? Like the World Cup for Stones, Sunday’s game may well come too early for Jagielka. Even if he’s fit, there’s a more than considerable argument for preserving both Stones’ and Distin’s place in a winning side. Given the importance of the fixture, continuity may well provide the key. But very soon, Martinez will have to decide on his first-choice centre-back partnership. It’s clear to me that partnership is Stones and Jagielka.
http://www.therussianlinesman.com/blog/jagielka-stones-time-come-martinez-start/
Jagielka or Stones? The time has come for Martinez to start both
Posted: 4th April 2014 by Chris Smith
David Moyes had a tendency to leave transfer business until the eleventh hour at Goodison. “He’s maybe one for the future” became the defence mechanism catchphrase of his apprehension towards recruited youth. January was generally a missed opportunity. John Stones, signed on deadline day during Moyes’ final transfer window, personifies this narrative. And yet just nine Premier League matches into his Everton career, Moyes’ last ever signing at Goodison has impressed enough to suggest he may well become his greatest.
The irony is that Moyes pipped successor Roberto Martinez to the youngster’s signature, which does raise a question: why were the two men battling for a youth player during their final moments of legacy-carving? They knew they were probably leaving and pursued a player they’d most likely never see. Clearly, scouting reports were persuasive – if a player like this is available, you sign them straight away. Whatever the managers’ respective reasons, Martinez had other ideas about Stones, and converted him to a centre-back immediately during pre-season. Since then, as Everton have cast off the shackles of Moyes’ get-back-behind-the-ballism, it has become increasingly obvious that Stones is cut out for figurehead status in Martinez’s new-look side. Whilst his physical attributes – namely height and pace – are fairly common traits for positional counterparts, Stones’ coolness in possession, awareness of his peripherals, and exquisite execution set him apart from nearly every English centre-back who has come before him. Excitingly, his best game is more often than not his last one.
Stones made his first league start during a blisteringly blustery afternoon away to Stoke alongside Antolin Alcaraz, himself making only his second appearance for the club. A rather flat contest ended 1-1 but Stones’ remarkable composure stuck in the mind, as, three weeks later, did the sight of him stood side-by-side captain Phil Jagielka assisting and reassuring the broken leg-afflicted Bryan Oviedo. A hamstring strain to Jagielka has allowed Stones to enjoy a run of five consecutive starts, and it’s fair to say Evertonians have enjoyed them too well with not a single point dropped in that period. Jagielka will likely be fit for this weekend’s crunch game with Arsenal which naturally beckons the question of whether or not he should replace the youngster in the starting line-up. To reduce the issue to the here and now misses the point. Like Ross Barkley, Stones’ only real deficiency – a lack of experience – is easily remedied by a sustained run in the first team, but Jagielka is Everton’s captain and a thoroughly admirable one at that, besides he is arguably his country’s finest centre-half. Which brings us to Sylvain Distin.
Originally brought in as an experienced Joleon Lescott replacement, Distin has performed consistently well for his entire Everton career. Aged 36 however, he is too old to build a team around and too old to keep either Everton’s captain or there precocious 19-year-old out of the side. Furthermore, the Frenchman lacks Jagielka’s organisational influence. Distin is superb at reacting; his pace belies his years, his strength eradicates danger and his physical determination has often set the tone for defiant displays, but Jagielka’s ability to drag his back four higher, or order it back when necessary, and generally spot and plug gaps in Everton’s defence is far more beneficial to the team. More pertinently, it’s far more beneficial to Stones. Distin is physically reactive, Jagielka is mentally aware, only the latter constitutes transferable skills.
Stones’ defensive repertoire is still somewhat sketchy. He heads the ball back into dangerous areas, concedes space at the back post and is prone to occasional passing lapses, but these are miniscule concerns in context. Whilst he will naturally correct them as he develops, placing him alongside Jagielka will expedite the process. As soon as Stones breaks into England’s senior team, he will not be leaving the squad until he retires. Who better for club, country and player to teach Stones than Jagielka, himself destined to command England’s back four in Brazil? Like the World Cup for Stones, Sunday’s game may well come too early for Jagielka. Even if he’s fit, there’s a more than considerable argument for preserving both Stones’ and Distin’s place in a winning side. Given the importance of the fixture, continuity may well provide the key. But very soon, Martinez will have to decide on his first-choice centre-back partnership. It’s clear to me that partnership is Stones and Jagielka.
Has this been translated? Notice a couple of bad grammar errors there.
PaddyG
Player Valuation: £8m
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