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John Stones

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I have seen maldini and cannavaro on numerous occasions in the flesh and yeah stones is as good if not better as they were at his age and not far off them at their peak mate. Baresi I seen also, towards end of his career, completely different type of defender but very elegant like stones on the ball. At 21 stones is every bit as good as these guys. In my opinion of course.

Have to disagree mate - but as you say, opinions!

@hallamblue is more along my rating of Stones, a young Rio Ferdinand, Stones has more poise and grace about him though, Rio had more positional discipline. If Stones had of stayed back instead of bombing forward, seeing his name in lights - leaving Besic without Navas then we wouldn't have conceded last night.
 
Have to disagree mate - but as you say, opinions!

@hallamblue is more along my rating of Stones, a young Rio Ferdinand, Stones has more poise and grace about him though, Rio had more positional discipline. If Stones had of stayed back instead of bombing forward, seeing his name in lights - leaving Besic without Navas then we wouldn't have conceded last night.


Little harsh I think because Mori and Stones were still up top from the corner. We still had a chance to put in the box after the resulting corner so they remained high up and that is how City caught us out.
 
Little harsh I think because Mori and Stones were still up top from the corner. We still had a chance to put in the box after the resulting corner so they remained high up and that is how City caught us out.


Stones overlapped Besic, leaving him with Navas goalside of him & Aguero on the other side of the pitch breaking? If Stones had stayed back to stop them catching us on the break (Navas was Stones side of the pitch) we wouldn't have conceded. I was always taught when playing against pace, always leave 2 back, same as teams do against Arsenal/Leicester.

EDIT: Ignore me, just watched it back, Stones stayed forward from the corner, tried to win the ball back after Mirallas lost it, got caught flat footed after he didn't win the ball and proceeded to not track back when City broke.
 
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Stones overlapped Besic, leaving him with Navas goalside of him & Aguero on the other side of the pitch breaking? If Stones had stayed back to stop them catching us on the break (Navas was Stones side of the pitch) we wouldn't have conceded. I was always taught when playing against pace, always leave 2 back, same as teams do against Arsenal/Leicester.

It was Mori that busted a gut to get back and credit to him for the attempt. Besic and Coleman were furthest back at the time with coleman on the left. Navas sprinted the wing with Barry trying to cover but never had the pace to keep up. It was a breakaway goal initially from a corner were you expect your centre backs to be. It wasn't like he went awol in the normal flow of a game.
 
EDIT: Ignore me, just watched it back, Stones stayed forward from the corner, tried to win the ball back after Mirallas lost it, got caught flat footed after he didn't win the ball and proceeded to not track back when City broke.

Stones was probably told to get up for corners due to his height, leaving Barry & Besic to cover the space on the break which didn't materialise.

SOZ JOHN.
 
It was Mori that busted a gut to get back and credit to him for the attempt. Besic and Coleman were furthest back at the time with coleman on the left. Navas sprinted the wing with Barry trying to cover but never had the pace to keep up. It was a breakaway goal initially from a corner were you expect your centre backs to be. It wasn't like he went awol in the normal flow of a game.

Just what I was putting mate - like I said previously, always keep 2 back to nullify the break - which we didn't do effectively as Besic and Coleman were too far forward.
 
It was Mori that busted a gut to get back and credit to him for the attempt. Besic and Coleman were furthest back at the time with coleman on the left. Navas sprinted the wing with Barry trying to cover but never had the pace to keep up. It was a breakaway goal initially from a corner were you expect your centre backs to be. It wasn't like he went awol in the normal flow of a game.

watching that a couple of times, i think Barkley can be seen at the half way line and can see Navas break and surely can see Barry struggling as he runs past him.

Think Ross should have gotten back to cover that to be honest. Something he will get better at. Doesnt need to be tasked with too much defensive duties but basic common sense and game management should see him realise the danger in that break.
 

Matt Scott from Inside World Football, on Talk Sport just then talking more nonsense, Everton can always be persuaded to sell if the money is right, cant see him being at Everton next season, can see him staying in the UK, think either United or Arsenal will come in for him ....etc
 
Stones overlapped Besic, leaving him with Navas goalside of him & Aguero on the other side of the pitch breaking? If Stones had stayed back to stop them catching us on the break (Navas was Stones side of the pitch) we wouldn't have conceded. I was always taught when playing against pace, always leave 2 back, same as teams do against Arsenal/Leicester.

EDIT: Ignore me, just watched it back, Stones stayed forward from the corner, tried to win the ball back after Mirallas lost it, got caught flat footed after he didn't win the ball and proceeded to not track back when City broke.


As good a game as he had Besic was poor for their goal. Was far too close to Funes Mori and allowed a huge space for Aguero to pick the pass.
 

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