John Stones

[daz4matty]

Learnt his trade ? He's not an ice cream man!

I take it your in a bad mood let it go we won.
Its not sharp ripping into our own players for the sake of it

 

[DualityNSNO]

That fifa game is good mate but its not real.
You could be our defensive coach and help stonsey to progress

Nothing to do with FIFA.

I'm not on Donald's side here, but his argument is good - if Stones was playing for a different team the exact same way he has for us, would you like Everton to spend £50m on him?

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

I don't care how much carroll cost,i am saying stones is going to be a great player when he has learnt his trade

You don't care because you realize your argument is crap. When would you say is the time in his life that he has to learn his trade by? Can he still be a student down the line at 23/24?

 

[Donald Twain]

That fifa game is good mate but its not real.
You could be our defensive coach and help stonsey to progress

I take it your in a bad mood let it go we won.
Its not sharp ripping into our own players for the sake of it

Lazy chico rip off this.

 

[BlueToff]

Nothing to do with FIFA.

I'm not on Donald's side here, but his argument is good - if Stones was playing for a different team the exact same way he has for us, would you like Everton to spend £50m on him?

If you base it on his first half of the season, then yes.

Go back to this thread around December. He was the best thing since sliced bread.

He had one or two shaky games (or, more accurately, shaky moments) and then got injured/rested. He came in tonight when we were sitting deep and didn't really do anything wrong. Gestede jumped higher than both him and Jags.

Mori is playing excellently at the moment so, while that stays the case, him and Jags will be the starting pair. There's certain games, however, where we're gonna face a team at home who will come for a draw, and Stones in that situation is ideal.

 

[The Cowboy]

He will be fine, the lad has had a lot to cope with over the past year. He has just lost his way for a bit. Needs to get this season out of the way and then have a good Euros. Somebody say you can't teach the basics, that is wrong, you can teach the basics. What you can't teach is class, Stones has class and that will show again.

I love this notion that Stones is 'class' just cos he swans about a bit. Funny how that 'class' turns into a floundering mess when he's in a last-man pressure situation.

 

[daz4matty]

Nothing to do with FIFA.

I'm not on Donald's side here, but his argument is good - if Stones was playing for a different team the exact same way he has for us, would you like Everton to spend £50m on him?

He has had a few bad months and an injury.
Young players go backwards its how they learn.
All of a sudden it will all come together and he will get there.
I just don't get bashing our young players

 

[SpurtingLesbian]

Nothing to do with FIFA.

I'm not on Donald's side here, but his argument is good - if Stones was playing for a different team the exact same way he has for us, would you like Everton to spend £50m on him?

I get what you're saying and no we'd never spend that on anyone. But Chelsea have already had a £38M bid laughed out and they will go higher, and if not them, some other idiot will pay it. (City/Utd/Barca)

 

[Toast]

Nothing to do with FIFA.

I'm not on Donald's side here, but his argument is good - if Stones was playing for a different team the exact same way he has for us, would you like Everton to spend £50m on him?

Cos we can spend £50m now like..

More if we wanted...

 

[BlueToff]

You don't care because you realize your argument is crap. When would you say is the time in his life that he has to learn his trade by? Can he still be a student down the line at 23/24?

Yes.

He's a defender - well, a centre half.

Centre halves don't come into their prime until their late 20s/early 30s. If there's one thing Stones has got on his side more than anything else, it's time.

 

[Donald Twain]

He's been out for over a month after he had had a tricky spell of form.

He came on when we were sitting deep and he was played as a right back/right side of a back three.

Jagielka was as much at fault for their goal as Stones was.

Good to have him back and that he got a run out.

he went up like a tart , half arsed and with eyes closed.

 

[daz4matty]

Lazy chico rip off this.

Thanks i will take that

 

[daz4matty]

You don't care because you realize your argument is crap. When would you say is the time in his life that he has to learn his trade by? Can he still be a student down the line at 23/24?

He is 21 and learning .
I don't get what you don't understand by that

 

[Donald Twain]

He will be fine, the lad has had a lot to cope with over the past year. He has just lost his way for a bit. Needs to get this season out of the way and then have a good Euros. Somebody say you can't teach the basics, that is wrong, you can teach the basics. What you can't teach is class, Stones has class and that will show again.

False!

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

Yes.

He's a defender - well, a centre half.

Centre halves don't come into their prime until their late 20s/early 30s. If there's one thing Stones has got on his side more than anything else, it's time.

So we have to facilitate his learning for another two to three seasons? Ok. I think that argument is simply useless just because it normally takes that long shouldn't apply to someone who is supposedly an outlier in regards to talent at a certain age.