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2017/18 Jonjoe Kenny

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My only hope is that Koeman was sparing him from the inevitable beatings we were to suffer at the hands of United, Tottenham and Chelsea, and that he plans on playing Kenny against the lesser sides to have more positive experiences.
 

Nah, he'll just have to be a competent right back, which will immediately make him better than Alcaraz Mk II

..to be fair, Martina had a decent game against United but I get what you're saying. I don't know what more Kenny has to do to get a game after being a stand out in World Cup and PL2 winning teams. You have to think RK just doesn't rate him good enough although it's reassuring he hasn't gone down the Galloway route with him.
 
..to be fair, Martina had a decent game against United but I get what you're saying. I don't know what more Kenny has to do to get a game after being a stand out in World Cup and PL2 winning teams. You have to think RK just doesn't rate him good enough although it's reassuring he hasn't gone down the Galloway route with him.

If Martina has to play, then stick him on the wing where his strengths lie

We simply can't afford to have a defender who can't defend anymore
 

If Martina has to play, then stick him on the wing where his strengths lie

We simply can't afford to have a defender who can't defend anymore

...I don't disagree. The thing with Kenny is that he's a conventional defender with an attacking flair. Martina gets the ball and hits useful crosses immediately he receives the ball. You rarely see him sprinting past his opposite number to hit the bye line in the fashion that Coleman and Kenny do. Doing that really does open up defences.
 
..to be fair, Martina had a decent game against United but I get what you're saying. I don't know what more Kenny has to do to get a game after being a stand out in World Cup and PL2 winning teams. You have to think RK just doesn't rate him good enough although it's reassuring he hasn't gone down the Galloway route with him.

If you hear Koemans comments about kids, he is very quick to always play them down. Not until late in last season when Davies was shining did he start to claim how good he was bringing the young players through.
Barkley is an example of giving one young player stick while he refuses to single out other individuals.
For the first 6 months of last season everybody new Tom DAvies was ready, but Koeman opted to pick the likes of Cleverley and even Gibson (league cup 1st game) ahead of him. It wasent until late december/early january were he had no choice he put him in.
Mason Holgate- some of our best form last season was playing a back 3 of Holgate/Williams/Mori, Holgate got the run around vrs Arnautovic for the first half as stoke decided to target playing the ball between Holgate & Williams, Koeman changed it and hasent used him in a back 3 since (in my opinion a back 3 only works with Holgate in it as it needs someone with pace).
At the earliest point also, Koeman has taken these 2 out of the team at any chance possible (Davies after signing a clutch of midfielders, Holgate after signing Martina/the second Coleman returned/after one poor performance vrs Stoke).

I was listening to a podcast this week were the french guy on it said he was very close to our bench on Sunday, so close he could here the Koeman brothers complaining about Davies "not following instruction", hence the reson they dragged him off despite him being arguably our best player.

The Koeman gives kids a chance statement is a myth, he looks down on them, refuses to praise them and singles them out after mistakes, despite not doing this to senior players.
Any of the kids that make it at everton during Koemans rein at everton will be despite him and because of there excellent midset and ability, not because of him
 
If you hear Koemans comments about kids, he is very quick to always play them down. Not until late in last season when Davies was shining did he start to claim how good he was bringing the young players through.
Barkley is an example of giving one young player stick while he refuses to single out other individuals.
For the first 6 months of last season everybody new Tom DAvies was ready, but Koeman opted to pick the likes of Cleverley and even Gibson (league cup 1st game) ahead of him. It wasent until late december/early january were he had no choice he put him in.
Mason Holgate- some of our best form last season was playing a back 3 of Holgate/Williams/Mori, Holgate got the run around vrs Arnautovic for the first half as stoke decided to target playing the ball between Holgate & Williams, Koeman changed it and hasent used him in a back 3 since (in my opinion a back 3 only works with Holgate in it as it needs someone with pace).
At the earliest point also, Koeman has taken these 2 out of the team at any chance possible (Davies after signing a clutch of midfielders, Holgate after signing Martina/the second Coleman returned/after one poor performance vrs Stoke).

I was listening to a podcast this week were the french guy on it said he was very close to our bench on Sunday, so close he could here the Koeman brothers complaining about Davies "not following instruction", hence the reson they dragged him off despite him being arguably our best player.

The Koeman gives kids a chance statement is a myth, he looks down on them, refuses to praise them and singles them out after mistakes, despite not doing this to senior players.
Any of the kids that make it at everton during Koemans rein at everton will be despite him and because of there excellent midset and ability, not because of him
That really makes no sense at all.
The number of young players given a chance by Koeman proves that.
A lot of posters on here have said that Tom Davies form has dipped this season and that is no surprise. The manager is using him carefully giving him some game time but not overloading him. It is better with a young player to wait a little longer until they are ready rather than putting them in too soon. The season is only just started, Kenny has loads of time to get experience and I would prefer to see him brought into a team that is playing better and is more settled than the last few games suggest.
 

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