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2018/19 Jordan Pickford

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RichardP said:
If we got Pope, I would make it clear to both Pope and Pickford that the starting position is up for grabs and that he who demonstrates consistency and reliability will get the starting position.

Pickford needs reminding that he is not undroppable.
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He is underppable, but a back up keeper is essential these days, until we get one there is nothing we can do, 7 days time we need one, even if its the only thing we do in Jan
 
4737carlin said:
He is underppable, but a back up keeper is essential these days, until we get one there is nothing we can do, 7 days time we need one, even if its the only thing we do in Jan
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I am not sure he is undroppable. It is not just his own performances that have been bad. I think he is significantly responsible for a lot of the indecision and apparent lack of organisation in the rest of the defence. I am not trying to pin all our failings on him or scapegoat him but I do think he has made a bad situation much worse than it ever needed to be.

If Pope joins us and looks the part then put him between the sticks.
 
RichardP said:
I am not sure he is undroppable. It is not just his own performances that have been bad. I think he is significantly responsible for a lot of the indecision and apparent lack of organisation in the rest of the defence. I am not trying to pin all our failings on him or scapegoat him but I do think he has made a bad situation much worse than it ever needed to be.

If Pope joins us and looks the part then put him between the sticks.
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I only think he is undroppable because we have no alternative, well not a sensible one anyway, we needed a back up in the summer, and still do.

He needs taking out of the action, just too much has gone on in the last month, for his and the teams sake, that clean sheet at Stamford Bridge seems a life time away now.
 
Saint Domingo said:
In fairness he’s faced more scrutiny than just about any goalkeeper I can remember as his initial good form isn’t henWorld Cup angered elements of the kopite media who couldn’t wait to jump on him as soon as he started the season. He’s under immense pressure every week whereas other keeers such as Leno Allison Lloris De Gea can make awful errors yet they’re barely mentioned. I feel like he’s trying too hard now and the mistakes are occurring. Needs a few weeks out of the limelight. Saying that, the finish from Son for the first one was ridiculous when you have players missing open goals from a yard out v the RS.
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Don’t both Pickford and Allison get slated by the (London based) media for every blunder? You never hear the last of it.

The new Arsenal and Chelsea keepers, plus Lloris, have all made more than one costly mistake (including very saveable attempts on goal hitting the back of the net) this season, but each is barely a foot note.
 
/sigh I’d like to see Jordan not become another Hart. I really think all that hype from England did much more damage than good for his Everton form.

He doesn’t look sure of himself anymore which is something he at least showed a little before the Liverpool goof. I liked him a lot as a sweeper keeper, but that Zouma fiasco made me question him a bit. This can’t be a common theme if we want to compete.
 

marcus said:
Above is true to a certain extent, however Pickford has to make better decisions we can't get away from that fact he is costing us points time after time.

He is much too excitable & makes rash decisions as well as over dramatizing saves, needs to calm down & stop being so dramatic.

Having said all that he was hopelessly exposed on lots of occasions & to blame him solely would be wrong.
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Coming out to clear the ball isn't rash decision and only cost us because Zouma didn't see/hear him and ran him over. If Zouma backs off nothing happens there. And at the same time maybe Pickford doesn't have to come out but you can see from where he starts on the play that he is supposed to be doing that on balls over the top or he would instead have been standing closer to the 6 yard box.
 
TheBigIguana said:
Coming out to clear the ball isn't rash decision and only cost us because Zouma didn't see/hear him and ran him over. If Zouma backs off nothing happens there. And at the same time maybe Pickford doesn't have to come out but you can see from where he starts on the play that he is supposed to be doing that on balls over the top or he would instead have been standing closer to the 6 yard box.
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His decision making is in question here, why come for the ball when Zouma had it under control the lad is rushing out causing panic when there is clearly no need to...

Zouma shook his head in disbelief, it was a keeper error if he stays in his goal then there is no problem. !!!


The lad panics & this panic will spread throughout our defence, Pickford needs to calm down...
 
It's just the story of this season, total bad luck. Replay that situation with the same people and 9 times out of 10, one of them would have taken responsibility. The bad luck is just unreal. Hoping for a lucky 2019.
 

marcus said:
His decision making is in question here, why come for the ball when Zouma had it under control the lad is rushing out causing panic when there is clearly no need to...

Zouma shook his head in disbelief, it was a keeper error if he stays in his goal then there is no problem. !!!


The lad panics & this panic will spread throughout our defence, Pickford needs to calm down...
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It's not panic. It's his actual job to clear balls put over the top. He does it weekly and he did it later on in the game which would have been a goal had he not. Maybe on this occasion he could have left it but regardless he clears it easily if Zouma doesn't run him over. Pickford is really only at fault if he hasn't yelled to Zouma. Our defenders are aware that he does this at this point.
 
TheBigIguana said:
It's not panic. It's his actual job to clear balls put over the top. He does it weekly and he did it later on in the game which would have been a goal had he not. Maybe on this occasion he could have left it but regardless he clears it easily if Zouma doesn't run him over. Pickford is really only at fault if he hasn't yelled to Zouma. Our defenders are aware that he does this at this point.
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5 minutes before that incident he does exactly the same thing but with no defender near him when Kane was clean through: he's out to the edge of his area and stranded watching helplessly as Kane's lifted effort hits the side netting.

He is dire. There's no excusing what he did yesterday. No comforting context of 'it's his job'...unless his job is defined as screwing up a teams game.
 
TheBigIguana said:
Coming out to clear the ball isn't rash decision and only cost us because Zouma didn't see/hear him and ran him over. If Zouma backs off nothing happens there. And at the same time maybe Pickford doesn't have to come out but you can see from where he starts on the play that he is supposed to be doing that on balls over the top or he would instead have been standing closer to the 6 yard box.
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Nah he’s got no business coming for that ball. His job is to act as a sweeper if necessary, not as default. Zouma is in complete control there, he could have nodded it back to Pickford if he’d stayed in the box so there’s absolutely no need for him to come out. It’s a genuinely awful piece of goalkeeping.
 

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