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[Tom Hughes]

World cup bid:

Liverpool FC are looking at a 60-73,000 (worth over £400m) brand new stadium with massive corporate and executive provision which they have planning permission for, and the credit crunch wont last forever.

Everton FC, have just failed at their third attempt to relocate.... the last one outside the city at just 50k and costing £100m.

I don't think the preliminary decision would be very difficult for the powers that be, do you? Granted, things can change, but I'd say in terms of initial bids etc we were the plain jane, if we were at the party at all.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I didn't realise we were at war.... so why the need for a truce?

Because it's tedious. Because in your eyes, the club are always wrong. Always.

Firstly.... having come back from the school run, I responded to the first post I came to. That may have been worded incorrectly by yourself, but it implied that you thought it was an LCC invention rather than a real agreement that was between EFC and its partners (as was noticed by 2 other posters).

Didn't spot them, you mean the post by Dylan correcting you?

As regards the whole "LCC haven't helped" thing, I believe this to be entirely disingenuous considering the fact that LCC put Kings Dock on a plate for just £30m club contribution, arranging all the enabling developments and site availability only to be severely let down.... or had you completely forgotten that little snippet! After that debacle alone,

Your not the best with figures are you? It wasn't just £30m mate. It ended up near £70m. Not that it matters, if you don't have it, you don't have it. It's that old common sense coming into play again. It epitomised the pre-requisite for a commercial partner.

I would've thought it highly unlikely that they would want any dealings with EFC ever again....... but no, when LCC and the city planners put a dedicated team together to help present the Loop site, having convinced the owners, EFC simply back-healed it out of turn. When the clamour grew for them to meet with LCC and Bestway and consider it, it was then discarded with the famous EFC need a 75k seater.......

LCC putting a team together? Is this the same team that LCC actually went against the recommendations of to reject bellefield, costing us £10m as part of sabotage kirkby? their own planning experts were ignored to spite Everton. Find a way to lay the blame at Evertons door for that one.

World cup bid:

Liverpool FC are looking at a 60-73,000 (worth over £400m) brand new stadium with massive corporate and executive provision which they have planning permission for, and the credit crunch wont last forever.

Everton FC, have just failed at their third attempt to relocate.... the last one outside the city at just 50k and costing £100m.

I don't think the preliminary decision would be very difficult for the powers that be, do you? Granted, things can change, but I'd say in terms of initial bids etc we were the plain jane, if we were at the party at all.

So LCC had no confidence in Everton delivering a top class stadium then?

 

[Duckling]

Again, we're really going round in circles. All any of us really have is perception, spin and conjecture. Facts have been in very short supply throughout the whole stadium debate since Agent Johnson mooted Kirkby Golf Club or whatever it was. We'll get nowhere and produce nothing tangible by repeating our positions to each other here.

That's not to say I haven't enjoyed the debate, but I doubt if anyone's changed their mind by even 1%...time to lock this thread GrandOldTeam? I'm sure there'll be another one along in a few days/weeks and we can all rehearse the same old arguments all over again and make just as much progress!

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Again, we're really going round in circles. All any of us really have is perception, spin and conjecture. Facts have been in very short supply throughout the whole stadium debate since Agent Johnson mooted Kirkby Golf Club or whatever it was. We'll get nowhere and produce nothing tangible by repeating our positions to each other here.

That's not to say I haven't enjoyed the debate, but I doubt if anyone's changed their mind by even 1%...time to lock this thread GrandOldTeam? I'm sure there'll be another one along in a few days/weeks and we can all rehearse the same old arguments all over again and make just as much progress!

Again, 100% agree pal. We actually had a poll months back with the majority voting against stadium talk being permitted!