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Kevin Mirallas

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I have said on here several times that we need a leader on the pitch, BAines has been our best peno taker since Royston,and what Mirrales did on Monday night was totally out of order,and something I have never seen from an Everton player, he showed no respect to Baines ,and jags should have shown some leadership I e grown a pair, rant over.
 
I love Baines, a fellow Kirkby lad but he should have had the testicular fortitude to tell Miralles to do one and took the ball back.

Imagine if Baines was in the hit movie " Back to the future " and he was Marty McFlys arl man ( for this analogy Ross Barkley will be Marty ) Here comes Biff ( Played by Kevin Miralles ) and takes Marty's mum by the arm. Baines would go " Go ed lad, smash her " while bottling it. Poor Ross will melt away from the photo and disappear forever.

Baines is as much to blame for this.
Disagree mate, Baines was in a no win situation once Kev ran past him with the ball. Even if he'd done as you said he would likely have missed as an argument is awful preperation for taking a penalty and the media would have loved an on field row.

Saddest thing about this whole episode for me is people blaming Baines.
 

Fully respect that youre entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't work like that in real life, and real football..there is too much, financially, at stake and someone rocking the boat will always be 'dealt with'. There is no need for the manager to state that this will happen, its taken as the norm. Just a bollocking and a handshake gives Mirallas the freedom to act like Billy Big Balls again and it will get nipped in the bud now. He will be gone. Changing a system, and acquiring the best players to play within that system, is not a one or two season job unless you are buying absolute top quality, which is still relatively unaffordable for Everton. At the same time the manager has to balance performance with change, and there are bound to be times when a series of below par performances takes place. Martinez needs at least another season to get the system and its variations in place, and to acquire, over the next 3 or 4 windows, the right players to operate the system and its variances. Barry will not be a regular beyond this season, Besic will and I see Lukaku, Coleman, Oviedo, maybe Garbutt and maybe Baines, Naismith and a few others surviving beyond the end of next season. If it hasn't worked out for Roberto by then, the managers position will need to be considered.
Only one person was responsible for the penalty debacle the other night..and that was Mirallas for his complete lack of professionalism, complete lack of any sense of playing for the team, complete lack of respect for his team mates, and incidentally for the supporters of our historic and reputable club, and complete disregard for the manager who has guided him and persisted with him despite his continuing lack of fitness and inability to last 90 minutes. I don't care how difficult he 'might' be to replace like for like, but I for one don't particularly want to see him in an Everton shirt again...and in over 65 years supporting Everton, I have never thought that about any other player.


I think Mirrallas is a great player and one that we can ill afford to lose, due to our current situation. My point is that, to the best of my knowledge this is the first time he screwed up, hence bollocking move on, almost like three strikes and your out, this should apply to all. His refusal to sign a new contract and make noises about champ league is more of a concern to me, and a situation that Everton should be well aware of! I would deal with the contract with a view to finalizing it asap, if its a no go sell him for the financial good of the club, immediately. This could be invested in a loan deal for a striker something that Martinez seems to be good at. I hope we win our next three games with or without Mirrallas.
 
So he made a (terrible) mistake. I think he realises by now how stupid and disrespectful he has been. Give him some fine and then let's get over it.
He's one of our few technically talented players who can actually turn a game around. And I think he's also a player who almost always wants to give his all during a game.
If we really want to get rid of all the players who did stupid things that hurt our team ...

Anyway, I'm all in favour of giving people second chances. Or does anyone know of another thing he did that was bad for the team in all the years he's played here?
 
I have said on here several times that we need a leader on the pitch, BAines has been our best peno taker since Royston,and what Mirrales did on Monday night was totally out of order,and something I have never seen from an Everton player, he showed no respect to Baines ,and jags should have shown some leadership I e grown a pair, rant over.

I'm over what happened the other night. The manager has to deal with him and I'm sure the other players have let him know what they thought of his behaviour. If he scores the winner in the derby, all will be forgiven.

I will, however, say that I agree with you that his attitude is a result, or symptom, of the lack of leadership on the pitch. Jags and Baines are far too mild-mannered. If it was Roy Keane on the pitch, he wouldn't have dared do what he did. If I take a few captains playing in the Premier League today with big mouths and who are not afraid to get vocal and aggressive then I would say Terry, Nolan, Shawcross, Gerrard, etc. would have been in his face immediately...and I would go as far as to say that it wouldn't even have happened in the first place IMO.

Nothing personal against Jags but he's not captain material.
 

Simple answer to all this is for the club to ban any form of messaging with regards individuals/groups either living or passed away. if people want to show the respects for dead friends /relatives / international teammates put it on the social media account. As a fan I don't want to see childish notes scribbled on t/shirts, I don't care how tragic the circumstances. Football is becoming a soap opera lately with people taking pictures and stuff, lets get back to proper football played by hard men not the pantomime we have now. rant over.
 
Simple answer to all this is for the club to ban any form of messaging with regards individuals/groups either living or passed away. if people want to show the respects for dead friends /relatives / international teammates put it on the social media account. As a fan I don't want to see childish notes scribbled on t/shirts, I don't care how tragic the circumstances. Football is becoming a soap opera lately with people taking pictures and stuff, lets get back to proper football played by hard men not the pantomime we have now. rant over.

On this note actually, I really can't be arsed with all this clapping at a certain minute stuff by the fans of various clubs. It's less about being respectful and more about 'looking respectful'.

Off topic I know..
 
Simple answer to all this is for the club to ban any form of messaging with regards individuals/groups either living or passed away. if people want to show the respects for dead friends /relatives / international teammates put it on the social media account. As a fan I don't want to see childish notes scribbled on t/shirts, I don't care how tragic the circumstances. Football is becoming a soap opera lately with people taking pictures and stuff, lets get back to proper football played by hard men not the pantomime we have now. rant over.

With you there, streek.

When he lifted that ball, his first thought must have been about paying his "tribute"... not concentrate on actually scoring the kick.

This message thing has been an embarrassing feature of football ever since that Brazilian bloke scored in USA 94 and ran toward the camera making a cradle gesture to tell the world his wife had delivered a baby.

Time it was stopped.

Another thing I hate is players fetching their wife and kids on to Goodison for the lap after the last home game.

I have no interest in seeing or applauding their families......don't want to know about them at all.
 

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