bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
Spurs made it up? A further insult.
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Philw
Player Valuation: £50m
TheFinnFan
Finners
666 bye kev
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Spurs are well known for having deep pockets and short arms. Completely opposite though when they want to sell. A rubbish club.
bluemangroup
Player Valuation: £70m
Your brother deserves better.If only Spurs were made up...
Tho my bro wouldn't be very happy
He wasn't selected to take that one the other night either...didn't stop him snatching the ball like a brat in a primary school team.
So we have absolutely no guarantee he won't pull a stunt like that again.
I agree with Finn.
The bugger should apologise to Baines, to Bobby and most of all to us, the people who paid good money to sit in freezing cold weather to witness this shameful piece of insubordination in what now seems was an attempt at grandstanding in honour of a friend.
A friend who was sod all to do with EFC.
Yo, Kevin....I don't give a stuff if you want to make some kind of a tribute to your mate....just go and do it somewhere private and stop using my football team to advertise it.
You might just be a wandering jugador, here today and gone tomorrow, but I live this stuff every day of my life and will continue to do do until my dying day.
And a win the other night was vital to the immediate future of my team.
And trying to point the finger of blame at Jags is just plain wrong.
Captains don't stand around organising who is to take pennos.....that is all agreed beforehand and Phil had no reason to do owt but what he did.....go back to his own half and await Baines taking the kick.
And if his shoelace was undone, then by all means tie it then when there is a break in play.
Would people rather he did what Yobo did at Fulham a few years ago and bend down to tie it whilst the opposition were on the attack?
Don't get me wrong....I don't think Jags us a good skipper.
But on this occasion he could have done nowt.
In fact, his intervention would have probably only made things worse as Baines couldn't have been in the right frame of mind if he had played tug of war with Mirallas for the ball while they waited for Phil to trundle up three quarters of the pitch with 30,000 or so people all screaming at them.
The minute Mirallas starting acting up there was only one best case scenario....just try and calm things down, let him get on with it and hope for the best.
To Baines' credit, that is exactly what he did.
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
Fully respect that youre entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't work like that in real life, and real football..there is too much, financially, at stake and someone rocking the boat will always be 'dealt with'. There is no need for the manager to state that this will happen, its taken as the norm. Just a bollocking and a handshake gives Mirallas the freedom to act like Billy Big Balls again and it will get nipped in the bud now. He will be gone. Changing a system, and acquiring the best players to play within that system, is not a one or two season job unless you are buying absolute top quality, which is still relatively unaffordable for Everton. At the same time the manager has to balance performance with change, and there are bound to be times when a series of below par performances takes place. Martinez needs at least another season to get the system and its variations in place, and to acquire, over the next 3 or 4 windows, the right players to operate the system and its variances. Barry will not be a regular beyond this season, Besic will and I see Lukaku, Coleman, Oviedo, maybe Garbutt and maybe Baines, Naismith and a few others surviving beyond the end of next season. If it hasn't worked out for Roberto by then, the managers position will need to be considered.
Only one person was responsible for the penalty debacle the other night..and that was Mirallas for his complete lack of professionalism, complete lack of any sense of playing for the team, complete lack of respect for his team mates, and incidentally for the supporters of our historic and reputable club, and complete disregard for the manager who has guided him and persisted with him despite his continuing lack of fitness and inability to last 90 minutes. I don't care how difficult he 'might' be to replace like for like, but I for one don't particularly want to see him in an Everton shirt again...and in over 65 years supporting Everton, I have never thought that about any other player.
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Dario Terracotta
Player Valuation: £70m
Good shout that mate,excellent again the other night,looks like he will be a leader given time too.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
As usual Steve a lot of sense here. I would also add Stones, Barkley, McCarthy to the above list of players to build a solid core of a team. When you look at it that way we are not doing a lot wrong.
I know I am being a doom mongerer here, but if we lose the next 3 games, do you see Martinez coming under pressure?
Personally I would like to see him unload unload Mirallas, try to loan a winger and get a CB in this window as a sign of intent going forward.
Swap deals rarely happen , but ironically Spurs did complete a partial swap deal during the summer and Levy would love the opportunity of doing a cheap deal.
We have seen however that generally speaking Bill Kenwright has been acknowledged as a nightmare to deal with and we have completed some really good deals both selling and buying.
I think RM would prefer to keep the squad together until the summer , widespread change would not be a good thing now although the introduction of a player or two certainly would give the squad a boost.
I think Mirallas will now certainly leave in the summer , in truth that was probably going to happen anyway.
We have seen however that generally speaking Bill Kenwright has been acknowledged as a nightmare to deal with and we have completed some really good deals both selling and buying.
I think RM would prefer to keep the squad together until the summer , widespread change would not be a good thing now although the introduction of a player or two certainly would give the squad a boost.
I think Mirallas will now certainly leave in the summer , in truth that was probably going to happen anyway.
Steve Wigan
Player Valuation: £35m
Yes, Stones, Barkley and McCarthy...I was writing off the cuff and they were the 'few others' I referred to. There may of course be other changes if any of those named decide they want to move on, or in Barkleys case, don't realise potential. I don't see Martinez under pressure unless we are almost certainties for relegation, and even then, we have to remember the Bill Kenwright prefers his managers to be stickers, andwould never involve Everton in a managerial merry go round. Martinez is not only trying to change the way we play, he also has to be aware that in some ways , to earn the time his project requires, he has to change the way supporters think as well, and in many ways that is an even harder job.
I love Baines, a fellow Kirkby lad but he should have had the testicular fortitude to tell Miralles to do one and took the ball back.
Imagine if Baines was in the hit movie " Back to the future " and he was Marty McFlys arl man ( for this analogy Ross Barkley will be Marty ) Here comes Biff ( Played by Kevin Miralles ) and takes Marty's mum by the arm. Baines would go " Go ed lad, smash her " while bottling it. Poor Ross will melt away from the photo and disappear forever.
Baines is as much to blame for this.
Imagine if Baines was in the hit movie " Back to the future " and he was Marty McFlys arl man ( for this analogy Ross Barkley will be Marty ) Here comes Biff ( Played by Kevin Miralles ) and takes Marty's mum by the arm. Baines would go " Go ed lad, smash her " while bottling it. Poor Ross will melt away from the photo and disappear forever.
Baines is as much to blame for this.
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