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There is NO financial irregularity. Elstone (finally!!) gave a reasonably detailed explanation of the cost items in Other Operating Costs at the AGM and there is nothing unusual.

Everton have a revenue problem not a cost problem. A club of our tradition, regularly finishing top 8 in the richest league in the world should generate revenue c. 50% higher than we do using Tottenham as a benchmark of sorts. The reasons why we fall so short are various but largely fall into 3 simple categories:

1. Location, location, location: poor city/poor core fanbase, higher profile neighbours, Manchester rivals...not instantly attractive to "bright lights, big city" international investors, tier A sponsors and casual international fans with £ to spend so you really have to create an alternative image through brand building which takes vision, creativity, time and smart investment

2. 20th century infrastructure in a 21st century economy: old ground/bad views, poor facilities, cramped seating, no mod-cons, underwhelming club shops...bargain basement facilities that we can only sell at (by PL standards given our stature) at bargain basement prices. Arsenal generate 50% of their matchday revenue from 10% of their attendance due to corporate facilities, extensive lounges, executive seating. This is more than we could ever do given #1 but we are still constrained (having thrown away the opportunity of our lifetime's at Kings Dock through the power struggle between Bill and Paul Gregg) but we can, should and must do better. A plan that fans support and will help promote/fund would be a starting place!

3. Commercial Conservatism: We have leadership who know the price of everything and the value of nothing and see risk where others might see opportunity resulting in a collection of commercial deals designed to provide certainty and predictability and which have reduced risk but handcuffed our commercial staff and eliminated growth opportunities e.g. Kitbag, Sodexho and our shirt sponsorship deals

Kenwright and Elstone deserve to be in the firing line but not because of ridiculous and frankly libelous suggestions that they have their hand in the till (they don't). They should be under intense and critical scrutinY because of their complete and utter failure to have a strategy in place to remove/circumvent/mitigate our revenue blockers and build effectively on marketing gold like The People's Club concept as a selling tool beyond our core fanbase and players with popular appeal (Fellaini's physical image, Baines' cool...).

The consequence is that Plan A has been, remains and forever shall be (for as long as they remain) live within our means and hope some mug comes along who'll bankroll us whilst maintaining the leadership status quo. It hasn't happened yet. There is a reason for that...
 
It stinks mate. Something not right at Everton. Loads of cash in and no net spend and no debt reduction.

What's happening to the money? All Evertonians need to be screaming this from the rooftops. Where's the cash going?

Repaying a loan from one of our own owners dodging tax in the Virgin Isles.
 
Players wages. It's been said many times. It's a model that has allowed us to finish higher in the league than those teams that blow their cash on transfer fees.

Nah mate, that's never explained why certain costs outside of team funding have risen dramatically and mysteriously. And we've just taken in another £25M per season and we cant seem to manage to utilise it for team building.

End of this transfer window will be very interesting adding up what came in and exactly what went out.
 
There is NO financial irregularity. Elstone (finally!!) gave a reasonably detailed explanation of the cost items in Other Operating Costs at the AGM and there is nothing unusual.

Everton have a revenue problem not a cost problem. A club of our tradition, regularly finishing top 8 in the richest league in the world should generate revenue c. 50% higher than we do using Tottenham as a benchmark of sorts. The reasons why we fall so short are various but largely fall into 3 simple categories:

1. Location, location, location: poor city/poor core fanbase, higher profile neighbours, Manchester rivals...not instantly attractive to "bright lights, big city" international investors, tier A sponsors and casual international fans with £ to spend so you really have to create an alternative image through brand building which takes vision, creativity, time and smart investment

2. 20th century infrastructure in a 21st century economy: old ground/bad views, poor facilities, cramped seating, no mod-cons, underwhelming club shops...bargain basement facilities that we can only sell at (by PL standards given our stature) at bargain basement prices. Arsenal generate 50% of their matchday revenue from 10% of their attendance due to corporate facilities, extensive lounges, executive seating. This is more than we could ever do given #1 but we are still constrained (having thrown away the opportunity of our lifetime's at Kings Dock through the power struggle between Bill and Paul Gregg) but we can, should and must do better. A plan that fans support and will help promote/fund would be a starting place!

3. Commercial Conservatism: We have leadership who know the price of everything and the value of nothing and see risk where others might see opportunity resulting in a collection of commercial deals designed to provide certainty and predictability and which have reduced risk but handcuffed our commercial staff and eliminated growth opportunities e.g. Kitbag, Sodexho and our shirt sponsorship deals

Kenwright and Elstone deserve to be in the firing line but not because of ridiculous and frankly libelous suggestions that they have their hand in the till (they don't). They should be under intense and critical scrutinY because of their complete and utter failure to have a strategy in place to remove/circumvent/mitigate our revenue blockers and build effectively on marketing gold like The People's Club concept as a selling tool beyond our core fanbase and players with popular appeal (Fellaini's physical image, Baines' cool...).

The consequence is that Plan A has been, remains and forever shall be (for as long as they remain) live within our means and hope some mug comes along who'll bankroll us whilst maintaining the leadership status quo. It hasn't happened yet. There is a reason for that...

Doesn't really tell us anything that. We have no idea exacty what goes where in terms of revenue received. Broad brush strokes just doesn't cut it.
 

There is NO financial irregularity. Elstone (finally!!) gave a reasonably detailed explanation of the cost items in Other Operating Costs at the AGM and there is nothing unusual.

Everton have a revenue problem not a cost problem. A club of our tradition, regularly finishing top 8 in the richest league in the world should generate revenue c. 50% higher than we do using Tottenham as a benchmark of sorts. The reasons why we fall so short are various but largely fall into 3 simple categories:

1. Location, location, location: poor city/poor core fanbase, higher profile neighbours, Manchester rivals...not instantly attractive to "bright lights, big city" international investors, tier A sponsors and casual international fans with £ to spend so you really have to create an alternative image through brand building which takes vision, creativity, time and smart investment

2. 20th century infrastructure in a 21st century economy: old ground/bad views, poor facilities, cramped seating, no mod-cons, underwhelming club shops...bargain basement facilities that we can only sell at (by PL standards given our stature) at bargain basement prices. Arsenal generate 50% of their matchday revenue from 10% of their attendance due to corporate facilities, extensive lounges, executive seating. This is more than we could ever do given #1 but we are still constrained (having thrown away the opportunity of our lifetime's at Kings Dock through the power struggle between Bill and Paul Gregg) but we can, should and must do better. A plan that fans support and will help promote/fund would be a starting place!

3. Commercial Conservatism: We have leadership who know the price of everything and the value of nothing and see risk where others might see opportunity resulting in a collection of commercial deals designed to provide certainty and predictability and which have reduced risk but handcuffed our commercial staff and eliminated growth opportunities e.g. Kitbag, Sodexho and our shirt sponsorship deals

Kenwright and Elstone deserve to be in the firing line but not because of ridiculous and frankly libelous suggestions that they have their hand in the till (they don't). They should be under intense and critical scrutinY because of their complete and utter failure to have a strategy in place to remove/circumvent/mitigate our revenue blockers and build effectively on marketing gold like The People's Club concept as a selling tool beyond our core fanbase and players with popular appeal (Fellaini's physical image, Baines' cool...).

The consequence is that Plan A has been, remains and forever shall be (for as long as they remain) live within our means and hope some mug comes along who'll bankroll us whilst maintaining the leadership status quo. It hasn't happened yet. There is a reason for that...

Absolutely the best and most independent (I.e. without an agenda) summary I've read on the Clubs financial performance. I struggle to comprehend how some just cannot understand the problems as they are and who prefer instead to wheel out dangerous talk of wrong-doing.
I'm all for massive pressure (hopefully leading to the quickest departure possible) on the current Board/ owners - but done the right way and not by underhand frivolity that undermines the real reasons why we're struggling off the field.
 
Nah mate, that's never explained why certain costs outside of team funding have risen dramatically and mysteriously. And we've just taken in another £25M per season and we cant seem to manage to utilise it for team building.

End of this transfer window will be very interesting adding up what came in and exactly what went out.

You mean we haven't managed to utilise it for team building in the first week of the transfer window.
 
It doesn't have to be financial irregularities for them to siphon off money, it can just be underhand dealings.

For example, these loans we repay but they never go down. Who are the loans too? Are they financing companies owned by members of our own board? In which case there is nothing wrong but it stinks. It's a legal way to take money out whilst looking like you haven't got your fingers in the pie.
No taxes being paid then ? Time to inform the hmrc.
 

You mean we haven't managed to utilise it for team building in the first week of the transfer window.

This present tranche of funding maybe (we wait to see how exactly how that money is borrowed against and spent), but we've been seeing a lot of years go by with OOCs increasing (no one really knows what comprises it) and surpluses at the end of one transfer window somehow disappearing at the beginning of the next (as with last January's £8M for fer that seems to have evaporated by the following summer, and the Arteta £10M the January before last which frittered away to nothing).

In the absence of a billionaire we need as much generated money invested in the team and if it doesn't feel like that's the case we need to know what we get in revenue explained in detail to us - every penny's destination - to get people's full confidence. Our annual revenue will soon be about £110M. If our manager is having to put up with selling to buy (or worse, negative net spend) then it's a more than fair to request that we have a forensic breakdown of all the costing categories to the 'nth' degree
 
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Even if we did get some sht hot financial guru in, we are NEVER going to be able to compete with the clubs above us. How is a club in Walton going to be able to compete against Arab oil, or Russian Maria money? We Aint
 
Even if we did get some sht hot financial guru in, we are NEVER going to be able to compete with the clubs above us. How is a club in Walton going to be able to compete against Arab oil, or Russian Maria money? We Aint

We can,t even compete with norwich so how will a fin guru help !!!!! bizarre
 
There is NO financial irregularity. Elstone (finally!!) gave a reasonably detailed explanation of the cost items in Other Operating Costs at the AGM and there is nothing unusual.

Everton have a revenue problem not a cost problem. A club of our tradition, regularly finishing top 8 in the richest league in the world should generate revenue c. 50% higher than we do using Tottenham as a benchmark of sorts. The reasons why we fall so short are various but largely fall into 3 simple categories:

1. Location, location, location: poor city/poor core fanbase, higher profile neighbours, Manchester rivals...not instantly attractive to "bright lights, big city" international investors, tier A sponsors and casual international fans with £ to spend so you really have to create an alternative image through brand building which takes vision, creativity, time and smart investment

2. 20th century infrastructure in a 21st century economy: old ground/bad views, poor facilities, cramped seating, no mod-cons, underwhelming club shops...bargain basement facilities that we can only sell at (by PL standards given our stature) at bargain basement prices. Arsenal generate 50% of their matchday revenue from 10% of their attendance due to corporate facilities, extensive lounges, executive seating. This is more than we could ever do given #1 but we are still constrained (having thrown away the opportunity of our lifetime's at Kings Dock through the power struggle between Bill and Paul Gregg) but we can, should and must do better. A plan that fans support and will help promote/fund would be a starting place!

3. Commercial Conservatism: We have leadership who know the price of everything and the value of nothing and see risk where others might see opportunity resulting in a collection of commercial deals designed to provide certainty and predictability and which have reduced risk but handcuffed our commercial staff and eliminated growth opportunities e.g. Kitbag, Sodexho and our shirt sponsorship deals

Kenwright and Elstone deserve to be in the firing line but not because of ridiculous and frankly libelous suggestions that they have their hand in the till (they don't). They should be under intense and critical scrutinY because of their complete and utter failure to have a strategy in place to remove/circumvent/mitigate our revenue blockers and build effectively on marketing gold like The People's Club concept as a selling tool beyond our core fanbase and players with popular appeal (Fellaini's physical image, Baines' cool...).

The consequence is that Plan A has been, remains and forever shall be (for as long as they remain) live within our means and hope some mug comes along who'll bankroll us whilst maintaining the leadership status quo. It hasn't happened yet. There is a reason for that...

Top post mate.

Conspiracy No, poor commercial management and missed opportunity Yes.

Don't post often, always reading, and never on the **** storm topics but that deserved a pat on the back!!!
 
Even if we did get some sht hot financial guru in, we are NEVER going to be able to compete with the clubs above us. How is a club in Walton going to be able to compete against Arab oil, or Russian Maria money? We Aint

So we just give up?

As far as I'm concerned, if we can't dream about working our way back up to win the league in the distant future, then we truly have lowered our expectations as Evertonians.

Were in a trough. A 26 year trough - but you have to believe we'll be back where we belong one day.
 

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