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I would have to say that it is a bit unfair to tar everyone at Liverpool with the same racist brush when it comes to some of these incidents. When you consider that the Evra one recently was one idiot from a crowd of 45,000, and otherwise the game was quoted on Sky News as being trouble-free, it's silly to call all of the fans racist. When such a high-profile case comes up like this, you'll always have people incited to be stupid like the man, who has been rightfully arrested, did. Nobody's saying that both the Adeyimi and Evra incidents were acceptable, but if you consider the actions in both cases have been condemned by the vast majority of the Liverpool fanbase and dealt with well in both cases then it seems more like an attempt to discredit Liverpool by going on like this than anything else.

As for the reaction to Suarez's ban; I think the club and the majority of our fans are admittedly guilty of blind delusion but not racism. I don't think we took the right response whatsoever, but again I don't think there was any outwardly racist intentions from the club in defending Suarez, however stupid it was.
i reckon thats about right. this racism thing is just a stick to beat the kopites with.
 
John Barnes' banana incident definitely didn't happen.

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01009/barnes_1009818c.jpg

Definitely.

Antonio, son, you're embarrassing yourself. Barnes himself has spoken about the racist abuse he received from Liverpool fans when he was still at Watford.

Incidentally, this reminds me of the time when I was running a pub in Manchester in the days of Barnes and Ince. A kopite (gobby little sh*t, funnily enough) was arguing with a Man U fan about the next day's game. "We'll win," he opined, "our coon is better than your coon."

Care for a banana, Antonio?
 
Dont know about anyone else, but Antonio's reasoned arguments are swaying me toward seeing things his way. I retract all I've said in the thread.

I see now that it's Everton with the racist problem and not Liverpool. That Everton fans were responsible for football disasters in the 1980s. That Luis Suarez only said to Evra "alright lid". That Kenny Dalglish was forced to send his players out at Wigan in pro-racist t-shirts by Nick Griffin. And that the Bilderberg Group and the Skull and Crossbones Society have Liverpool Football Club in their crosshairs...along with FIFA, UEFA, the FA and quite probably NATO.

Your work here is finished AB.

Don't forget the faulty turnstiles we installed which was the cause of the problems.
 
i reckon thats about right. this racism thing is just a stick to beat the kopites with.
A stick which Kenny and co gleefully handed over to their detractors, Booing a player for reporting racism, the oldham game, the monkey gesture, banning a fan for life for being found guilty of the same crime as Suarez. All only occured because of their own ridiculous actions. I've no doubt that the actions were not motivated by any racial intolerance, but they were still the wrong actions, and have only themselves to blame.
 

Kenny is dragging the name of Liverpool Football Club - and consequently the City itself - into the dirt with his arrogant posturing.

The gentlemen of the past - Evans, Moran, Paisley, Fagan, Houlier etc. must be weeping.

As long as Liverpool are winning big games they will follow Kenny like the Pied Piper. Good to see that some Liverpool fans are feeling uncomfortable with this. They must know that when it comes crashing down - which it will eventually - ALL things do in time - it's gonna be dramatic.

The fawning adulation bestowed upon Kenny which, in real terms, has yet to be truly earned, would wreak havoc with the psyche of the sanest man. It isn't doing him any favours. He is starting to creak a bit.
 
Kenny is dragging the name of Liverpool Football Club - and consequently the City itself - into the dirt with his arrogant posturing.

The gentlemen of the past - Evans, Moran, Paisley, Fagan, Houlier etc. must be weeping.

As long as Liverpool are winning big games they will follow Kenny like the Pied Piper. Good to see that some Liverpool fans are feeling uncomfortable with this. They must know that when it comes crashing down - which it will eventually - ALL things do in time - it's gonna be dramatic.

The fawning adulation bestowed upon Kenny which, in real terms, has yet to be truly earned, would wreak havoc with the psyche of the sanest man. It isn't doing him any favours. He is starting to creak a bit.

All that ****ing idiot has done to get to the LC final is to get a goal and put 11 men behind the ball against the two toughest teams they played to get there...which is what he's done in all encounters with the top sides. You need to be a bit more adventurous than that to climb into the CL places these days, and when/if he ever tries to be more expansive Liverpool will get buried. Let's face it, he builds his hopes around a player, Gerrard, who's seeing out the last season of his career when he'll be influential on matches.

They are in desperate straits going forward. And there's no way 'moneyball' obsessed John Henry is indulging anymore transfer money demands from King Klanny.
 
It is a very brave, or a very stupid man that tried to undo the volume of pressure on him and his job by piling even more on top of it.

His bottle has gone before when his position was untenable, it appears he hasn't learned from that time. Much like their support haven't.
Peas in a pod.
 
All that ****ing idiot has done to get to the LC final is to get a goal and put 11 men behind the ball against the two toughest teams they played to get there...which is what he's done in all encounters with the top sides. You need to be a bit more adventurous than that to climb into the CL places these days, and when/if he ever tries to be more expansive Liverpool will get buried. Let's face it, he builds his hopes around a player, Gerrard, who's seeing out the last season of his career when he'll be influential on matches.

They are in desperate straits going forward. And there's no way 'moneyball' obsessed John Henry is indulging anymore transfer money demands from King Klanny.

If it's that easy how come Everton didn't do it?
 

If it's that easy how come Everton didn't do it?

Because Liverpool have the players to carry out the tactic. It's no use trying to polish a turd lad. Liverpool are almost as much off the pace of the Premier League elite as Everton are.

Sorry if that incontrovertible truth is hard to swallow like.
 
Because Liverpool have the players to carry out the tactic. It's no use trying to polish a turd lad. Liverpool are almost as much off the pace of the Premier League elite as Everton are.

Sorry if that incontrovertible truth is hard to swallow like.

Bar the 9 point gap that will probably become 12 tonight.
 
Bar the 9 point gap that will probably become 12 tonight.

12 points= 4 wins. Hence why he said 'almost'.

100 million spent and your 9 points ahead of us. And we've been TERRIBLE this season. If we'd actually played well we'd be up along side you. Draw at home to Blackburn, loss at home to QPR, draw at home to Wolves, loss at home to Stoke. Says it all.
 

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