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McBain said:
Its entertainment and a business. Playing packed houses has a direct correlation in what will be available to you in future. If DC had done well we’d all be watching the Flash movie this year. That Marvel keep hitting it out of the park means the proof is in the pudding that they and others will keep making Superhero flicks for all of us to enjoy as long as they are profitable.
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They're making you pay to see the same movie over and over. They love to see McBain strolling through those cinema doors, with a loose wallet and a love of identical 3 act narratives
 
Watched Bladerunner 2049 again last night, even better the second time, but think Harrison Ford should have been in it more, nice soundtrack as well, but not a patch on the original. Special effects were really good.
 

McBain said:
Its entertainment and a business. Playing packed houses has a direct correlation in what will be available to you in future. If DC had done well we’d all be watching the Flash movie this year. That Marvel keep hitting it out of the park means the proof is in the pudding that they and others will keep making Superhero flicks for all of us to enjoy as long as they are profitable.
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Mate, Marvel/Disney have created (or stumbled onto) a cultural phenomenon. There's literally nothing DC/Warner Bros can do about it at this stage. They could make the greatest film ever and still wouldn't make as much as the latest Marvel offering because people will still go en masse to that regardless it's quality. It doesn't matter if it's good like Winter Soldier or bad like Guardians of the Galaxy 2, it's gonna sell big based on the brand name alone. You have to stop confusing popularity with quality. I mean, Captian Marvel made more then the Dark Knight triolgy but if you're honestly saying that it's a better film then you're crazy.

Superhero films will plateau out eventuality and people will look on this period for the mad time that it is and understand that the money that Warner Bros are currently making is actually fairly good in the grand scheme of things. Disney/Marvel have simply caught on big style and have the golden touch right now. They're a cultural phenomenon that people all over the world are into at this point. They're not the first genre to catch on like this and they won't be the last.

In any event, the day I let the money a movie makes determine if I enjoy it or not is the day I want to leave this planet. It will never make me happy to hear that a film studio has made x amount.
 
Moomin said:
Disney will milk it to death.

They will drive us to hate the likes of Star Wars etc etc
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Although I've happily watched all the original films, I've never really been a Star Wars fan. However, even I realised the really recent ones are pretty lacklustre.

My actual friends who are Star Wars fans have hardly a good word to say about them and that includes the late 90s / early 00s ones. It's all about the money now.

A little bit like Star Trek really as my brother is a big fan and again, when I watched the new ones it was horrendous. Perhaps it's generational expectations?
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
Mate, Marvel/Disney have created (or stumbled onto) a cultural phenomenon. There's literally nothing DC/Warner Bros can do about it at this stage. They could make the greatest film ever and still wouldn't make as much as the latest Marvel offering because people will still go en masse to that regardless it's quality. It doesn't matter if it's good like Winter Soldier or bad like Guardians of the Galaxy 2, it's gonna sell big based on the brand name alone. You have to stop confusing popularity with quality. I mean, Captian Marvel made more then the Dark Knight triolgy but if you're honestly saying that it's a better film then you're crazy.

Superhero films will plateau out eventuality and people will look on this period for the mad time that it is and understand that the money that Warner Bros are currently making is actually fairly good in the grand scheme of things. Disney/Marvel have simply caught on big style and have the golden touch right now. They're a cultural phenomenon that people all over the world are into at this point. They're not the first genre to catch on like this and they won't be the last.

In any event, the day I let the money a movie makes determine if I enjoy it or not is the day I want to leave this planet. It will never make me happy to hear that a film studio has made x amount.
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So many things wrong here. Of course WB can do something about it. Make good movies. Superman 1978. Batman 1988. The Dark Knight 2008. Thirty years they've been making killer Supes movies and all of a sudden its a cultural phenomenon? You don't know your history. Next point - Star Wars. Quality is always a reflection of popularity. You make crap and it won't make money. Taking inflation into account Dark Knight beats Captain Marvel. Stop being such a hipster bro. It's called Show business for a reason.
 

McBain said:
So many things wrong here. Of course WB can do something about it. Make good movies. Superman 1978. Batman 1988. The Dark Knight 2008. Thirty years they've been making killer Supes movies and all of a sudden its a cultural phenomenon? You don't know your history. Next point - Star Wars. Quality is always a reflection of popularity. You make crap and it won't make money. Taking inflation into account Dark Knight beats Captain Marvel. Stop being such a hipster bro. It's called Show business for a reason.
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None of those things were combating a shared cinematic universe FFS. They were standalone projects. You point out a couple of films that are literally decades apart. If you can't see the distance between that and the boom of the shared universe that marvel has right now then there's no point in us discussing anything further. I'm aware of my history, you just want to rewrite it to suit your fanboy narrative.

"You make crap and you won't make money?!" Are you totally unfamiliar with the movie buissess?! Crap stuff makes money all the time in the movies. That's such an absurd comment.

There's no hipster comments from me bro. I praise films I like and call out the ones I don't. Just blindly supporting a multi-bullion-dollar franchise and being happy when they make another billion dollars is just fanboy nonsense. If judging a film for myself makes me a hipster then I'll live with it. I'd sooner to that then be a drone that just supports popular things because they're popular.
 
Gwladysstreetlad said:
None of those things were combating a shared cinematic universe FFS. You point out a couple of films that are literally decades apart. If you can't see the distance between that and the boom of the shared universe that marvel has right now then there's no point in us discussing anything further. I'm aware of my history, you just want to rewrite it to suit your fanboy narrative.

"You make crap and you won't make money?!" Are you totally unfamiliar with the movie buissess?! Crap stuff makes money all the time in the movies. That's such an absurd comment.

There's no hipster comments from me "bro". I praise films I like and call out the ones I don't. Just blindly supporting a multi-bullion-dollar franchise and being happy when they make another billion dollars is just fanboy nonsense. If judging a film for myself makes me a hipster then I'll live with it. I'd sooner to that then be a drone that just supports popular things because they're popular.
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Big difference between your own opinion and the term ‘quality’. ‘Combating’ a shared cinematic universe? I don’t even know what that means. And finally, your also confusing your own opinion on a films merit with with the consumerism and commercial aspect of film. Films are products. Last Jedi made a third less than TFA, and you still don’t equate a lack of quality or perceived one with financial performance?
 
McBain said:
Big difference between your own opinion and the term ‘quality’. ‘Combating’ a shared cinematic universe? I don’t even know what that means. And finally, your also confusing your own opinion on a films merit with with the consumerism and commercial aspect of film. Films are products. Last Jedi made a third less than TFA, and you still don’t equate a lack of quality or perceived one with financial performance?
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Not really, there is no subjective way to measure the quality of a movie or anything else. You can only form an opinion on said movie, flawed or not.

It's perfectly obvious what it means. You made false comparisons of two individual films and a standalone triolgy that were created decades apart that had zero competition. Any films on the superhero genre realised now will inevitably be compared to the MCU hence the need to combat marvels shared universe.

If movies made what they deserved then TLJ would of been a total bust.

Look mate, I respect your opinions even when I think them totally wrong but I fear we're wasting each other's time here. Neither of us are going to give an inch on this are we? Better to just leave it here? I'm sure there will be further chances to have this discussion again in the near future! ;)
 

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