Latest Takeover Rumour. The Moores / Noell one

Are you For or Against the idea of the possible Moores / Noell takeover ?


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Double Glazing?

Rather than focusing on a Capital One Cup semi-final, a favourable 3rd round draw in the FA Cup and (results aside) the most exhilarating football seen in the Royal Blue shirts for nearly 30 years, many Evertonians are more concerned with the prospects of a change of ownership despite having wished for such for many a year.

Much of the speculation has been brought about by the lack of information provided by the assumed US purchasers, Moores and Noell plus other un-named investors. Having allowed the exclusivity period into the public domain, our would-be US owners have done themselves no favours by steadfastly refusing to provide any information as to their intentions, assuming the purchase goes ahead.

Now I’m not going to add to the speculation, as there’s no point, but I think it is worth considering the motives for acquiring Everton and learning from other acquisitions as to what we might expect.

Ten and a half years ago Manchester United were acquired by the Glazer family. At the time the Glazers were not known in the UK, nor was there any evidence of their interest in football let alone Manchester United. The Glazers, expertly guided by Ed Woodward (then at JP Morgan) realised that United as a business could throw off unbelievable levels of cash relative to the cost of acquisition. They also realised that the strength of future income flows were sufficient to meet investor requirements who might subscribe for bonds, albeit at punitive rates of interest.

Thus the Glazers acquired Manchester United for £790 million of which £525 million was borrowed, including £275 million of hedge fund borrowings known as “PiKs” – extremely expensive. Bear in mind not a single penny of the £790 million takeover was invested in the club – it was used to pay existing shareholders. Furthermore the debt used by the Glazers to cover their shortfall was to be serviced and repaid by the club, not the Glazers themselves.

One of the things seldom mentioned about the Glazer takeover is the undertakings given by the Glazers to not only the Premier League but to the British Government at the time that there would be no increase in ticket prices resulting from the takeover. Any discussion with a United fan, or indeed anyone that has been a visiting supporter to Old Trafford in the last 10 years can verify whether or not this undertaking was honoured.

Let’s fast forward to the present. United have been very successful over the last 10 years, on and off the pitch. By some distance they are the Premier League’s biggest club and probably only beaten by Barcelona and Real Madrid in terms of global presence.

With all this success, an increase in ticket prices (not to mention the season ticket cup scheme), an unbroken record of appearances (bar one season) in the Champions League, the explosion of broadcasting, sponsoring and merchandising revenues you’d expect the Glazer’s borrowings to have been paid off and the club to have a healthy balance sheet – well, not a bit of it.

As of May 2015 borrowing stood at £411 million gross, and financing costs for the year, a massive £35 million – all despite revenues close to £400 million in the last accounting year.

The reason? Over 10 years more than £700 million has been paid out in fees and interest payments to the Glazers, bankers and various investors in their bonds.

So what’s this got to do with Everton? The would-be investors have a great deal of experience in sporting investments, and crucially private equity. Private equity investors typically (not always) look for strong income flows to meet debt servicing and repayment (the debt is used to leverage the equity, minimising the amount of capital required and therefore maximising return on equity – a key component of this form of investing) , they look to grow the asset value of a business and typically are looking for an “exit strategy” 3 – 7 years from their initial investment.

The problem Everton have with this form of investing is that not only does it extract money out of the club at an alarming rate – although the scale is smaller for Everton than it was for United, it is actually the exact reverse of what is required.

We need investment in the club, not a means of extracting returns out of it as broadcasting (and hopefully sponsorship/commercial revenues also) increase significantly over the next 5 years.

We require the exact opposite of what the Glazers have done with United, they extracted cash, we need investors prepared to invest capital over and above the acquisition cost to existing shareholders.

We need this for obvious reasons. Despite the growing number of high quality, young individuals in our first team, our squad is not strong enough to compete in the Premier League and other cup competitions including Europe. We also need to continue the growth of our academy programmes for future years.

We need investment either in Goodison Park, or in an alternative stadium within the city.

We need investment (working capital) in our commercial operations including merchandising, corporate entertaining, and our sponsorship divisions.

All of these areas, plus vitally important activities such as EiTC require capital investment and income and profit retention for us to succeed – we’re not the same business as United were 10 years ago, it would be entirely wrong to assume that their business model would produce the same results on and off the pitch at Everton, because the odds are it will not.

If, as is speculated, there are more than one group of interested parties interested in acquiring Everton, the acquisition price is not the most important factor, it is the means of funding the acquisition, the business model and plans for re-capitalising the business, not extracting short term cash for investors, that is most important. Those means ought to be equity, not debt in order to meet our objectives on and off the pitch.

Oh, and one other thing, at least as important as all the above – that the investors “get” Everton, who we are, what we represent, our place in the past development of the beautiful game, and our role in shaping its’ future, not only as a giant of the past but as a model for the future on and off the pitch. Our forefathers provided that model for all but the recent past, what an opportunity to rediscover that role and move the game and club forward once more.

Lets see if I've got the gist of it.

It's not going to happen - which is bad.
It is going to happen - which is also bad and in 3 to 7 yrs they will have made a fortune out of us and look to sell us on to get their initial Investment back as well, which they didn't actually pay for anyway, while not investing a brass wazoo in the ground or team...or something like that...basically what Bill did but with more noughts on the end.
 
As long as it's not a leveraged buyout, the stadium issue gets solved in some way (new place or renovstion), and our commercial performance improves...why should it matter if they sell for profit down the line?
 

As long as it's not a leveraged buyout, the stadium issue gets solved in some way (new place or renovstion), and our commercial performance improves...why should it matter if they sell for profit down the line?
It's not a direct but you post got me thinking... I'd have to do a lot of looking and I may get time at some point this weekend but if you factor in cost of the club, stadium costs, fancy next level playing staff costs so we can challenge for the top 4 then that brings us to whose level? Spurs, Liverpool? How much more are they worth than Everton? Would the investment increase our value enough to outweigh the money needed on the stuff I mentioned and actually allow them to make a profit in resale?
 
It's not a direct but you post got me thinking... I'd have to do a lot of looking and I may get time at some point this weekend but if you factor in cost of the club, stadium costs, fancy next level playing staff costs so we can challenge for the top 4 then that brings us to whose level? Spurs, Liverpool? How much more are they worth than Everton? Would the investment increase our value enough to outweigh the money needed on the stuff I mentioned and actually allow them to make a profit in resale?
May I be the first to congratulate you on your bravery for undertaking this excercise at this point.
To my mind, there are currently too many variables - sale price and % unknown, is the sale price including making the club debt free, if so which debts, how much is the debt to JG Funding,cost of buying out the AIB mortgage on home ticket sales, FFP implications both European and Premier League including wages cap and the fact that interest on infrastructure such as a new ground is excluded from FFP profit or loss until it creates revenue, if UEFA believe that any naming rights or similar are inflated they will reduce to fair value,cost of ground/grants available etc.
 
May I be the first to congratulate you on your bravery for undertaking this excercise at this point.
To my mind, there are currently too many variables - sale price and % unknown, is the sale price including making the club debt free, if so which debts, how much is the debt to JG Funding,cost of buying out the AIB mortgage on home ticket sales, FFP implications both European and Premier League including wages cap and the fact that interest on infrastructure such as a new ground is excluded from FFP profit or loss until it creates revenue, if UEFA believe that any naming rights or similar are inflated they will reduce to fair value,cost of ground/grants available etc.
I appreciate your in depth discouragement lol. Saved me from what seems a lot of research, guess work and effort.
 
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I appreciate your in depth discouragement lol. Saved me from what seems a lot of research, guess work and effort.
No discouragement intended, merely hoping to save your sanity. Why bother if you're going to get vaulted.
As you can tell, I have had these noble intentions in the recent past, luckily my natural and legendary idleness got in the way. Damn phone - puts the thumbs up at the start.
 
Thought @The Esk's post was first class though I do have a slight problem with the 'What Everton stands for' line.

For me, one of the insidious outcomes of the B K reign has been the positioning of Everton as the cloth cap, whippets and coal in the bath club ... too proud and grounded in the "real" values of football to touch the modern reality. Whatever the hell "real values" have ever been in professional football.

My view is that the original John Moores and Catterick brought success to the club by being ruthless operators in the world as it was, not by being museum attendants.

The energy should be put into improving the current club, with a sincere bow to the past of course. It's a short step from the vigour and promise of the young bride to the disappointment and relic - hugging of Miss Haversham.
 

Thought @The Esk's post was first class though I do have a slight problem with the 'What Everton stands for' line.

For me, one of the insidious outcomes of the B K reign has been the positioning of Everton as the cloth cap, whippets and coal in the bath club ... too proud and grounded in the "real" values of football to touch the modern reality. Whatever the hell "real values" have ever been in professional football.

My view is that the original John Moores and Catterick brought success to the club by being ruthless operators in the world as it was, not by being museum attendants.

The energy should be put into improving the current club, with a sincere bow to the past of course. It's a short step from the vigour and promise of the young bride to the disappointment and relic - hugging of Miss Haversham.

Appreciate your post mate. Just to clarify the values I believe Everton have represented throughout our history up to the creation of the Premier League (albeit with one of our own instrumental in its creation) are ones of forward thinking and advancing both the club and the game.

I don't need to list the number of "firsts"achieved by Everton throughout football's history that have gone on to shape the game - they're the main thrust of the values I am talking of.

That, sportsmanship, and the closest possible connections with our local community and environs are the values we as a club should strive for.
 
Lets see if I've got the gist of it.

It's not going to happen - which is bad.
It is going to happen - which is also bad and in 3 to 7 yrs they will have made a fortune out of us and look to sell us on to get their initial Investment back as well, which they didn't actually pay for anyway, while not investing a brass wazoo in the ground or team...or something like that...basically what Bill did but with more noughts on the end.

That is literally the worst case scenario but yes even if they happened they'd probably leave us in a better state now as they must have some sort of plan to increase revenues so they can take out more money for themselves.

If they increase our commercial revenue so they can organise and build a new stadium and do all this on debt but generate enough money within the club to pay this debt then we're in a better position than we are now and look even more appealing to potential owners.

It seems to be exactly what the current crowd would do if they had the contacts or know how to increase the revenues and generate bigger money. They are allegedly and inadvertently doing it now.
 
Also, it's going to turn out as badly for us as it did for Manchester United.

Has it turns out badly for United??

The only thing gone wrong at Utd is Ferguson retiring which would have happened regardless of who was in charge.

Commercially they are flying, there kit deal with adidas for match kit only is astronomical, the biggest in the world by a mile and something adidas must be losing on but they just wanted to be associated with utd.

Half of that pays back the Glazers interest payments alone and that's before we look at all the other excellent commercial deals they have in place.

Financially United were a super club, above and beyond anyone here by some distance but they've took them on again by some way.
 
Has it turns out badly for United??

The only thing gone wrong at Utd is Ferguson retiring which would have happened regardless of who was in charge.

Commercially they are flying, there kit deal with adidas for match kit only is astronomical, the biggest in the world by a mile and something adidas must be losing on but they just wanted to be associated with utd.

Half of that pays back the Glazers interest payments alone and that's before we look at all the other excellent commercial deals they have in place.

Financially United were a super club, above and beyond anyone here by some distance but they've took them on again by some way.

My point and the reason for the direct comparisons with United are threefold.

Firstly the fans have paid a huge financial price for the way the Glazer takeover was structured. I have the data but cannot access it currently demonstrating the rise in ticket prices etc relative to other clubs during the Glazer reign. As a result the fan demographic has changed even more so than the rest of the Premier League.

Secondly, given the gross resources available to United it can be argued that they have under-achieved on a relative basis because so much of the resources available to the club have gone to bankers, lenders and other advisors.

Thirdly United as you mention were in a very strong position financially at the time of rhe takeover and had to be to support the amount of borrowing undertaken. We are nowhere near as strong, and for the forseeable future are almost entirely reliant upon the growth in broadcasting revenues for revenue growth. Any change in our Premier League status would make the club hugely vulnerable. The risk levels associated with a heavily indebted Everton (in a leveraged buy out) are considerably higher than they ever were at United.
 
My point and the reason for the direct comparisons with United are threefold.

Firstly the fans have paid a huge financial price for the way the Glazer takeover was structured. I have the data but cannot access it currently demonstrating the rise in ticket prices etc relative to other clubs during the Glazer reign. As a result the fan demographic has changed even more so than the rest of the Premier League.

Secondly, given the gross resources available to United it can be argued that they have under-achieved on a relative basis because so much of the resources available to the club have gone to bankers, lenders and other advisors.

Thirdly United as you mention were in a very strong position financially at the time of rhe takeover and had to be to support the amount of borrowing undertaken. We are nowhere near as strong, and for the forseeable future are almost entirely reliant upon the growth in broadcasting revenues for revenue growth. Any change in our Premier League status would make the club hugely vulnerable. The risk levels associated with a heavily indebted Everton (in a leveraged buy out) are considerably higher than they ever were at United.
How likely is it that they're aiming for a leveraged buy out/the board will sell in that circumstance? Not an argument, just curious.
 

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