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Lee mason

is he the worst ref in English football?


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Well, according to our lovable neighbours the refs are corrupt only against them. Some great crying goes out across social media about how nothing goes their way and how refs are ensuring they lose games. One person saying refs are doing it as they know the RS will win the title every year if all was fair. They claim that Salah and Mane get pulled and pushed all over the pitch every game and the refs do nothing, even in the derby they point out how Mane was fouled so many times. Normal people can clearly see Mane was diving as per usual, but those RS specs sure do have a mind of their own.

Back in the real world. Refs are idiots. so many stupid decisions over the past few seasons. Mic them up and let us hear what they are saying and things will change. Not kopites though, they won't change, and will just keep cry-arsing
 
A rugby referee’s primary role is to interpret the rules of the game to the best of their judgment, which in layman’s terms they’re the boss of that pitch!

In football, the constant tinkering of laws and referees being dictated how to officiate means they aren’t truly in control of the pitch; theres comes the mistakes.

I remember playing as lad and complaining about a knock-on, “Sir, it was a knock on.” Simple reply - “No it wasn’t!” and that was the end of it.

Also in rugby, both codes, the ref is constantly talking to the players and explaining why he`s making decisions, which is a key tool in maintaining discipline.

I really don`t see why this shouldn`t apply to footy too.

The refs in footy, seem to be somehow separate to the game, where as with rugby ( both codes ) they`re part of it.
 

Mason should have been well away from the ball, and side on to see ball striker and goal, before blowing his whistle.
 
It’s unlikely the PGMOL will fully clarify why he disallowed the goal because they’re a closer shop who will always protect their own - refs ruling refs.

Personally, I think he’s panicked when he has seen the WBA keeper not in the correct position, so has quickly blew again as he’s unsure of the rules.

At least in the rugby yesterday, where there was a slightly similar controversy, the ref stood by his decision; Mason just panicked and didn’t know what to do.

An equally ridiculous decision.
 
Totally agree with this too. I think they missed a trick with VAR where they could have opened up the decision making process and at least communicated what they were reviewing.

If Brighton are in a position where they go down, that moment is going to be replayed as being crucial. The missed penalties and inability to turn chances into goals will be hidden behind it. Communication and accountability would help allay some of that.
I've said since VAR was even rumoured that there is no excuse for a ref to not come out publicly now. The whole "the game moves too fast, of course he can make mistakes" is out the window when they are making decisions based on millimeters now. They stop the game and make decisions and, way too often, they are the wrong decision. How is it right that they have technology to help them do better but they STILL can't be asked to answer even a basic question about anything?
 

In rugby Union,the refs are mostly telling teams to release the ball or stay onside. If they didn’t there would be loads more penalties. In football they do the same at corners etc.The other main difference is that commentators on rugby very rarely criticise a ref,even yesterday the main whinge was more about England’s penalty count rather than the ref.In football,the commentators,pundits etc are way too quick to slag the ref off,just to make themselves look knowledgeable or for their own egos,
none of which helps.
Yes,they should be better than they are,that’s not the refs fault.It’s more to do with it not being seen as a profession which ex players want to move to or poor training by the FA. VAR should help the refs but its still dependent on the current rules being interpreted differently by human beings.
I don’t think putting them in front of cameras/reporters after the game will help.It will just make the focus onto the ref rather than the teams performances.
Not to sure about 2 refs on the field but I do think 4 refs assistants instead of 2 would help.
 
An equally ridiculous decision.
It was, but as we all know the referee in rugby rules the roost - England haven't complained as they know it's worthless.

Also in rugby, both codes, the ref is constantly talking to the players and explaining why he`s making decisions, which is a key tool in maintaining discipline.

I really don`t see why this shouldn`t apply to footy too.

The refs in footy, seem to be somehow separate to the game, where as with rugby ( both codes ) they`re part of it.
Again, I think that comes down to their role as the person interpreting the rules, so discussion is vital. They are constantly communicating their views to the teams.

The game itself helps with the rook, maul or breakdown etc. with compact play allowing communication, but it should be able to somehow transfer to football.

I always think about goalkeepers time wasting as an example. Referee should blow once early on and tell the captain to get his players in order - make it clear.

If they ignore it again, yellow card him and tell the captain that one more time and he's off, and it'd soon be gone. Instead, it's rarely enforced and never properly.

Football referees almost do not have to think or take ownership, more like automatons, who feel they simply have to enforce the rules rather than manage the game.
 
The other main difference is that commentators on rugby very rarely criticise a ref,even yesterday the main whinge was more about England’s penalty count rather than the ref.In football,the commentators,pundits etc are way too quick to slag the ref off,just to make themselves look knowledgeable or for their own egos,
none of which helps.

With the low scores in football compared to rugby there is much more riding on every decision, therefore more scrutiny. A single penalty decision can decide a match, or who stays up and who goes down.
 
Lucky enough in NZ that we can get to see all EPL games. I was unlucky enough to be watching this game (Sunday afternoon, feet up etc).

Now I will watch any game of football anywhere. If you are in the middle of nowhere (think NZ) and a game is on, and on the far side of the pitch is a man with a dog; thats me. Seen it all. All levels. Good referees, sometimes really good, bad referees, sometime really bad. But, in all my years watching football I have never see a referee stuff it up quite like Lee Mason did.

I respect him as a human being. Lets be civilised after all. But, lets be honest, he should never referee an EPL game again. In fact, Lee, if you happen to be reading this, just retire pal. As quietly and with as much dignity as you can.
 
Tried to explain to my wife what happened with the whole Mason fiasco, she asked "why does the team have to ask permission to restart the game? they were fouled, they should be able to restart as quickly as they want".

She makes a point, no?
 

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