Lee mason

[Lineker]

I go for the “you have my respect until you lose it” model of respect. Mason, as one example, lost it ages ago

For me it is you are entitled to courtesy until you lose it. Respect is earned, no exceptions, no provisional status.

 

[Lineker]

In fairness, the ref in the rugby on Saturday had a really bad game too. There's bad officiating in most sports.

But it wasn't dressed up as being correct in some way or greeted with silence...well actually not sure if the referee has admitted a mistake or not, but at least noone has attempted to convince us it was a correct decision somehow.

 

[wandyr79]

But it wasn't dressed up as being correct in some way or greeted with silence...well actually not sure if the referee has admitted a mistake or not, but at least noone has attempted to convince us it was a correct decision somehow.

Just came on here to post that he has come out and said he was wrong. The World Rugby Head of Match Officials has confirmed that he spoke to him and he recognises the mistakes in awarding both tries.

Football refs want respect well act like you deserve it. Every single rugby player and coach will now 'still' have respect for the guy, whereas every football player and coach will disrespect Mason and others because they simply do not admit mistakes and say they were wrong.

 

[PhilM]

For me, it isn't rocket science to anticipate that a wall of silence from the company providing services will eventually result in furious customers. It is no different here. I dont think that the premier league quite understands who butters their bread ultimately.

Also, an admission of a mistake made or even just an explanation the fans don't agree with will somewhat appease most fans, the reasonable ones. The unreasonable ones are going to be unreasonable regardless, so why. Uild your strategy around them?

I can to some extent appreciate why they may be reluctant to overtly admit errors on a regular basis, but a genuine and open explanation would definitely help.

Even when the PGMOL or PL release a statement, there is little consistency and nor does it set a precedent: the rules fluctuate from week to week.

So it's no wonder players, coaches and fans alike don't really understand the rules any more - I certainly don't whereas for decades it was mainly clear as day.

I've said this forever. I rugby style referee at the youth football level and it works. The referee even tells the players what to do and where to go (literal not figurative) in order to obey the laws of the game

With the point of refereeing, I totally agree: communication, consistency and authority means people will adhere to the rules and if they don't, punish them.

"Captain, tell your player that I want the corner to work like this... Look if you do this again, x is going to happen. I've told you to do this, off you go. "

How often do you see a player in rugby openly demonstrate with the referees decision? It's not very often is it.

 

[No8Bally]

He is a very poor ref, but he is still MILES behind Clive Thomas as the worst ever.

 

[hallamblue]

For a long time I've thought he was not only the worst referee currently, but all time in the top flight.

Clive Thomas says hello.

 

[hallamblue]

3 refs I remember as decent. Joe Worrall from Warrington who always reffed the Derby. George Courtney from Spennymoor in County Durham. Every time I go up to the North East we drive past a sign with Spennymoor on it and I ask the family what it's famous for lol . Thirdly Keith Cooper from Pontypridd. I remember the first time he reffed saying to my dad "how's that fat bloke going to get about the pitch?". He positioned himself really well and used his linesmen. Always had a good rapport with the players and was fair. Used to be on with Hawskby and Jacobs on Talk Sport. Very knowledgeable and a right laugh

 

[Dario Terracotta]

First time I recall Mason shafting us was right in front of my view main stand at Goodison,my memory of it is a little vague its so long ago!!Arteta went up for a header think it was against West Brom,clearly takes an elbow to the face, goes down poleaxed,Mason was stood within ten yards and couldn't miss what happened, he waved play on, the crowd was a seething cauldron of anger,I'm pretty certain one of our boys a minute or so later wipes out the WBA offender going right through them which then results in Mason quickly producing a red card and sending an Everton player(I can't remember who!!)off, the crowd went mad, maybe someone else can recall it better than myself?!!

 

[Seathestars]

The birkenheader takes some beating as far as bad refs go

 

[Lineker]

Did we ever have a refereeing forum in here? I've been lurking here for years before finally signing up and don't recall one but could be mistaken.

I'm talking about an actual real referring page not one for slagging off the refs we hate (of which I can add a few posts if I was so inclined). There I s some good conversation here and I think the forum as a whole could benefit from it.

We could rate the referees for neutral games etc.. track assignments

 

[Blue 1]

First time I recall Mason shafting us was right in front of my view main stand at Goodison,my memory of it is a little vague its so long ago!!Arteta went up for a header think it was against West Brom,clearly takes an elbow to the face, goes down poleaxed,Mason was stood within ten yards and couldn't miss what happened, he waved play on, the crowd was a seething cauldron of anger,I'm pretty certain one of our boys a minute or so later wipes out the WBA offender going right through them which then results in Mason quickly producing a red card and sending an Everton player(I can't remember who!!)off, the crowd went mad, maybe someone else can recall it better than myself?!!

I remember that. It was Gonzalo Jara, an absolute shithouse of a player, made an awful and malicious challenge on Arteta that went unpunished, so Arteta stamped on him.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

I remember that. It was Gonzalo Jara, an absolute shithouse of a player, made an awful and malicious challenge on Arteta that went unpunished, so Arteta stamped on him.

I just clearly remember seeing mason looking straight at the arteta assault and unbelievable that play continued after what he witnessed first hand!!would that have been around 2007ish? scary he's been reffing that long if so!!

 

[SussexToffee]

Paul Durkin, David Ellary..... when that pair came along, it was the beginning of sh*t refereeing in football.

 

[NewRadical]

I remember that. It was Gonzalo Jara, an absolute shithouse of a player, made an awful and malicious challenge on Arteta that went unpunished, so Arteta stamped on him.

I think we'd just pulled a goal back from 2 down, the noise was incredible because we'd already seen some iffy decisions. Goodison is an intimidating place when moody. Then Arteta got sent off and we were humped 4-1.

They had a giant of a winger who had the beating of Hibbert everytime.

 

[DownOnTheUpside]

Worst of all time? there can only be one