Lee mason

[Barnfred 55]

Clattenburg?

There's been a few over the years. Especially in derbies.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Who was Gerard's mate who sent Hibbert off? Was that the same game Kuyt should have been sent off and Carragher gave two pens away for holding Lescott, or rather didn't

Clattenburg in the '07/08 season.

Sent off Hibbert, should have been a penalty for Lescott after a Finnan foul, Neville was sent off for handling the ball on the line, then Lescott should have got another pen for a foul from Carragher.

We were leading at half time and it really looked like a clear case of "word in the ear" at half time, because nothing went our way in the second half. Kuyt's winner was in injury time, but we went straight up the other end and it was a stonewall penalty.

I might have to edit my list.

 

[Old Blue 2]

The only ref I've had any time for was Gordon Hill (for those long-in-the-tooth like me to remember).

It was funny seeing Roger Kirkpatrick running like a little weeble!

The rest...

 

[NewRadical]

Lee Mason always looks riddled with anxiety. It isn't a strong look for a referee.

As far as refereeing in general it seems to be a case of the rules are how the official decides to interpretate them at the time, even if they do something completely different the following week in the same instance. If they screw up no matter how badly an 'expert' referee will be used in the media to tell us that really they were correct.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Lee Mason always looks riddled with anxiety. It isn't a strong look for a referee.

As far as refereeing in general it seems to be a case of the rules are how the official decides to interpretate them at the time, even if they do something completely different the following week in the same instance. If they screw up no matter how badly an 'expert' referee will be used in the media to tell us that really they were correct.

This is something that rankles me, I've never met a fan who expects a ref to be perfect. I think we can all live with a guy who says he got it wrong.

But it's the lack of communication, accountability that others have expressed much better than I can that irritates.

Also, the number of refs who admit to mistakes after they retire.

If I want infallibility I'll go to the Vatican.

 

[SussexToffee]

Dunk did this against the RS last season and it was allowed to stand. Has the rule suddenly changed overnight stating everyone has to be ready for the free kick to be taken?.

 

[arch stanton]

mic up the refs

 

[PaulPowersTash]

The only ref I've had any time for was Gordon Hill (for those long-in-the-tooth like me to remember).

It was funny seeing Roger Kirkpatrick running like a little weeble!

The rest...

Roger Kirkpatrick! Now that brings back the memories.
He once called out Franny Lee for diving by throwing himself
on to the pitch arms outstretched. He was a character

 

[trueblue84]

Lee Mason is past it and should have retired – what happened at the Hawthorns was appalling refereeing

I think it is too late for Mason – his track record of poor performances is stacking up fast, it is time for him to move on

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Lineker]

But the crux of the matter is that it most likely won't be. Sadly, the referees are not held accountable for the decisions they make, which continues the cycle.

I'm not saying go down the draconian route as ultimately they are humans and we all make mistakes; however, for serious errors there must be accountability.

Otherwise, it is nigh on certain that complacency will come into play like and will end up with week after week of contentious decisions, like we have now.

When was the last week we didn't have a serious issue with referees or VAR? For a while, it seemed like every single game day there were serious errors.

Previously, I had sympathy for referees as they were managing an intense game with decisions made in the split second that were analysed in slow-motion.

But now, they have VAR to help alleviate the issue and instead of the game getting better it's become even worse, so my sympathy is little to none.

I'd start by breaking up the PGMOL or at least making serious changes with the rigid involvement of ex-players, coaches and impartial individuals.

I would make the referees accountable for serious errors with multiple breaches meaning they're axed rather than demoted for a game week or two - on full pay!

The communication between the on-pitch officials and the VAR would also be public, so people can hear how decisions have been made.

If people want referees to be respect, well I would start at the top as it's not going to be a quick or easy process. I would then facilitate more cards for abuse.

For me, it isn't rocket science to anticipate that a wall of silence from the company providing services will eventually result in furious customers. It is no different here. I dont think that the premier league quite understands who butters their bread ultimately.

Also, an admission of a mistake made or even just an explanation the fans don't agree with will somewhat appease most fans, the reasonable ones. The unreasonable ones are going to be unreasonable regardless, so why. Uild your strategy around them?

 

[Lineker]

Also in rugby, both codes, the ref is constantly talking to the players and explaining why he`s making decisions, which is a key tool in maintaining discipline.

I really don`t see why this shouldn`t apply to footy too.

The refs in footy, seem to be somehow separate to the game, where as with rugby ( both codes ) they`re part of it.

I've said this forever. I rugby style referee at the youth football level and it works. The referee even tells the players what to do and where to go (literal not figurative) in order to obey the laws of the game.

 

[ToffeeTim]

He's just not a very good referee and makes too many mistakes. It's not personal in any way but referees have to be in some way accountable for their performance just like in any other workplace. I completely disagree when people talk about officials being deliberately biased or whatever, they just aren't that good or sometimes lack conviction.

The bigger issue is how to raise standards in Britain because we seem to have a lack of top quality officials right now.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I've said this forever. I rugby style referee at the youth football level and it works. The referee even tells the players what to do and where to go (literal not figurative) in order to obey the laws of the game.

In fairness, the ref in the rugby on Saturday had a really bad game too. There's bad officiating in most sports.

 

[heatmeiser]

I think it's Lee Mason that has a personlised reg saying "Mr Big".

Says it all really.


* actually it might have been Phil Dowd

 

[Lineker]

Tried to explain to my wife what happened with the whole Mason fiasco, she asked "why does the team have to ask permission to restart the game? they were fouled, they should be able to restart as quickly as they want".

She makes a point, no?

That has been the interpretation forever until seemingly recently. However it seems that the interpretation changed to the referee allowing the team to set up the wall if the team asks the referee to enforce the distance (which they were entitled to in the first place...ive always felt preventing a quick restart should be a card) to now the defense seems to be entitled to their wall regardless. It makes my head explode quite honestly.