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Liverpool 0-0 Everton. 5th May @ 13.30.

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Pisses me off mate. Spends all his time waving his arms in the air, and he's a dirty [Poor language removed] to boot. The longer we go on not talking about him, the more it becomes kopite behaviour.

Fellaini was throwing his elbows all over the place

We are lucky ref didnt see those

Glad it's not just me. We defend him when they say he's all elbows....well he is. If an opposition did what he did every game we'd want them sent off. Dirty player, doesn't seem to care anymore, can't wait til he goes and we (hopefully) use the ridiculous money we'll get for him (thanks MOTD) to buy some players we won't play long ball to, and who won't assault opposition players every corner. For me, he's the reason we got the goal disallowed - the ref was quite rightly looking for infingements in the penalty area at set pieces because we do it every time. And because carragher told him to at half time in the tunnel
 
why cant Redcoat just **** off so we can have some yank give moyes a £50 mil war chest to get top 4 next season sick of that arl **** holding us back
 
Never come on here anymore cos of the constant talk of the reds but got to get this off my chest.

Been bursting with pride over our club since september. The way we handled the details which we all knew about Hillsborough was first class. LFC fans have rightly been praising us since about it.

Then Kenwright, who has his faults, and Moyes represented the great name of EFC on the 15th at Anfield.

Today ive never been so ashamed to be in the everton end of a ground in all my life. Ive follwed the blues home, away and abroad for going on 30 years. I'd heard about thier "Thanks" mosaic and I really thought that it would do both clubs the world of good.

Instead i was shocked to hear not just a minority - but a sizable amount of the fans I was stood with, singing "Murderers" and the disgusting "Always the victim" songs.

I really thought we had more about ourselves than that.

And i know full well that we will say its not about Hillsborough. I know full well the song IS ABSOLUTELY about Hillsborough. A united song that glorifes the disgrace of Heysel and the tradgedy of Hillsborough. Simply listen to the words. "ALWAYS the victim". Yes that word. 'Always'. Not just Heysel. Heysel and everything else.

Now i drink with blues week in week out, i go to every away game. I know what gets said and what gets sung. Im not stupid and i'm not some whopper who gets offended by anyything. But today - its shook me to the core.

Thank God my friends and matchgoing mates arent like those so called evertonians that i had the misfortune to share an away end with today.

Flares great. Banners great. red****e songs such as "looking down on the red****e great.

But ANYTHING to do with Hillsborough (and dont you dare hide behind your ignorance of this) is TOTALLY unaceptable for any scouser. I dont care how old you are, how young you are, how much stick you get from your red mates. It should never happen. Those who sung manchester united songs about Liverpool FC's fans today brought shame on EFC and we will be lucky - damn lucky indeed if this is not picked up by the media, because if it does its a stain on the great name of Everton Football Club.

After being stood there watching thier Kop turn to a blue and white word of "Thanks" this sticks in the throat more than most.


Sorry if i dont make sense because i left Anfield and have been out bevvying ever since partly trying to forget an awful derby and partly to try and forget a large section of our "support".

I know full well i'll not be alone in thinking this by the way because most of the people i spoke to tonight were in full agreement, all good blues - most been going much longer than me and some top young lads who have thier heads screwed on the right way - the FUTURE of our support.
 

The 'always the victim' song isn't about hillsborough, it never has been. Nor is it about heysel. It's mostly about suarez.

I'm sorry but it's not about hillsborough. That's not ignorance, that's the truth.
 
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You call yourself a blue yet you talk like a kopite, neither the murderers or the victim song have anything to do with what happened in Sheffield.
 
Honestly I wish we didn't play the heysel card. I wish we didn't sing murderers and use it in banter.

I think it's beneath us and it's not something I've ever done myself.

But it's got nothing to do with hillsborough. We simply aren't referencing that.
 
Pleased with a point away to Liverpool based on our track record against them.

Thought that other than the disallowed goal ("Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"), the referee had a very decent match.

We didn't threaten too much nor did they. One of the most tame derbies that I can remember.
 
Never come on here anymore cos of the constant talk of the reds but got to get this off my chest.

Been bursting with pride over our club since september. The way we handled the details which we all knew about Hillsborough was first class. LFC fans have rightly been praising us since about it.

Then Kenwright, who has his faults, and Moyes represented the great name of EFC on the 15th at Anfield.

Today ive never been so ashamed to be in the everton end of a ground in all my life. Ive follwed the blues home, away and abroad for going on 30 years. I'd heard about thier "Thanks" mosaic and I really thought that it would do both clubs the world of good.

Instead i was shocked to hear not just a minority - but a sizable amount of the fans I was stood with, singing "Murderers" and the disgusting "Always the victim" songs.

I really thought we had more about ourselves than that.

And i know full well that we will say its not about Hillsborough. I know full well the song IS ABSOLUTELY about Hillsborough. A united song that glorifes the disgrace of Heysel and the tradgedy of Hillsborough. Simply listen to the words. "ALWAYS the victim". Yes that word. 'Always'. Not just Heysel. Heysel and everything else.

Now i drink with blues week in week out, i go to every away game. I know what gets said and what gets sung. Im not stupid and i'm not some whopper who gets offended by anyything. But today - its shook me to the core.

Thank God my friends and matchgoing mates arent like those so called evertonians that i had the misfortune to share an away end with today.

Flares great. Banners great. red****e songs such as "looking down on the red****e great.

But ANYTHING to do with Hillsborough (and dont you dare hide behind your ignorance of this) is TOTALLY unaceptable for any scouser. I dont care how old you are, how young you are, how much stick you get from your red mates. It should never happen. Those who sung manchester united songs about Liverpool FC's fans today brought shame on EFC and we will be lucky - damn lucky indeed if this is not picked up by the media, because if it does its a stain on the great name of Everton Football Club.

After being stood there watching thier Kop turn to a blue and white word of "Thanks" this sticks in the throat more than most.


Sorry if i dont make sense because i left Anfield and have been out bevvying ever since partly trying to forget an awful derby and partly to try and forget a large section of our "support".

I know full well i'll not be alone in thinking this by the way because most of the people i spoke to tonight were in full agreement, all good blues - most been going much longer than me and some top young lads who have thier heads screwed on the right way - the FUTURE of our support.

Unfortunately mate you have absolutely no idea what the always the victim song is about. Its about them always seeing themselves as the victime of every rash decision made i.e Suarez racism, Suarez biting.

Now turn it in you sanctimonious (probable Kopite) bellend
 

Yeah I thought the victim chant was pretty cut and dry. I don't know its origins, but the first time I remember hearing it was after the Suarez racism stuff. And like someone pointed out, the fact that most kopites are trying to tack on this sinister undertone kinda proves the chant right.
 
.....returning to the match itself, I wonder if anybody expected like me that Gerrard would throw himself to the ground when he rounded Howard. Kop end, Stevie Gee La falls over, there's only going to be one decision but I think Howard deserves a lot of praise for the way he didn't give Gerrad or Sturridge the chance to take a tumble. Well done Tim, bit of an unsung hero yesterday.
 
Don't know if you listened to the Sky Commentators today [no idea who they were] but it sounded to me like both of them had just sucked Gerarards Cock just before kickoff...

Commentator - "And Gerard majestically sweeps up that threat from Everton, driving down the field in typical Gerard fashion...

Back Up Commentator - That was clear goal there for Everton, but remember the goal that was incorrectly disallowed in the Derby at Goodison - What goes around comes around...

What absolute pricks...

Yeah that was the commentary stream we were getting on tv in the states...I was like WTF how do you "sweep up majestically"!? Good grief.
 
I'll drill her like the prairies of Dallas, deeper than a debate between Neitzsche and Plato, wider than a speculative effort from Tony Hibbert and faster than a pedal operated sewing machine.

You win. Both of you. Hahahahaha ffs I don't even post much but this exchange was well well worth it!
 
Never come on here anymore cos of the constant talk of the reds but got to get this off my chest.

Been bursting with pride over our club since september. The way we handled the details which we all knew about Hillsborough was first class. LFC fans have rightly been praising us since about it.

Then Kenwright, who has his faults, and Moyes represented the great name of EFC on the 15th at Anfield.

Today ive never been so ashamed to be in the everton end of a ground in all my life. Ive follwed the blues home, away and abroad for going on 30 years. I'd heard about thier "Thanks" mosaic and I really thought that it would do both clubs the world of good.

Instead i was shocked to hear not just a minority - but a sizable amount of the fans I was stood with, singing "Murderers" and the disgusting "Always the victim" songs.

I really thought we had more about ourselves than that.

And i know full well that we will say its not about Hillsborough. I know full well the song IS ABSOLUTELY about Hillsborough. A united song that glorifes the disgrace of Heysel and the tradgedy of Hillsborough. Simply listen to the words. "ALWAYS the victim". Yes that word. 'Always'. Not just Heysel. Heysel and everything else.

Now i drink with blues week in week out, i go to every away game. I know what gets said and what gets sung. Im not stupid and i'm not some whopper who gets offended by anyything. But today - its shook me to the core.

Thank God my friends and matchgoing mates arent like those so called evertonians that i had the misfortune to share an away end with today.

Flares great. Banners great. red****e songs such as "looking down on the red****e great.

But ANYTHING to do with Hillsborough (and dont you dare hide behind your ignorance of this) is TOTALLY unaceptable for any scouser. I dont care how old you are, how young you are, how much stick you get from your red mates. It should never happen. Those who sung manchester united songs about Liverpool FC's fans today brought shame on EFC and we will be lucky - damn lucky indeed if this is not picked up by the media, because if it does its a stain on the great name of Everton Football Club.

After being stood there watching thier Kop turn to a blue and white word of "Thanks" this sticks in the throat more than most.


Sorry if i dont make sense because i left Anfield and have been out bevvying ever since partly trying to forget an awful derby and partly to try and forget a large section of our "support".

I know full well i'll not be alone in thinking this by the way because most of the people i spoke to tonight were in full agreement, all good blues - most been going much longer than me and some top young lads who have thier heads screwed on the right way - the FUTURE of our support.

Sorry, but it's just categorically not about Hillsborough. 30 odd thousand blues at Wembley performed a perfect minute's silence and have taken part in numerous rememberance services without the slightest hint of trouble. The song was not sung until after the Suarez affair and is perfectly applicable to the actions of all connected with Liverpool football club over the last couple of years. Believe whatever you want to believe, but it doesn't change facts.
 

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