Match Thread Liverpool 1-0 Everton, Wed 2nd April 20:00

[Caolam]

That's irrelevant.

It is far from irrelevant, while I oppose violence in the game, I would support mandatory red cards for any player who strikes or attempts to strike an opponent. However football has become a game of almost no physical contact. Defenders used to be just that, defenders, there was an appreciation of a guy who could tackle and break up an attack. Nowadays we no longer have places in teams for the art of the defence, defence is a blanket thing, we no longer rely on a player who can make a challenge we rely on smothering play with numbers. Look at how the price of players has gone over the years, as forwards now cost 10s of millions the protection of them has gotten to the stage whereby a dirty look from a defender gets them a booking. Football should be a game of many skills and they should all be valued, it should be about more than kicking the ball into the net. In my view the ball was there to be won, Tarks won it.

 

[SLAVEN BILIC]

The BBC bias never clearer than today. Online match report leads with a ‘red card poll’ on the Tarkowski tackle, and skims over Jota’s shenanigans, the lack of VAR scrutinizing their goal, contrasting with the instant VAR scrutiny of Beto. Mind you, apart from giving it a really good go from our perspective, it was satisfying in the extreme to see how [Poor language removed] Van Dijk was.

Van Duck was named MOTM on the premier league app!! How I don’t know.

 

[matty1878]

i hate them rinse and repeat

 

[Miked1e]

Van Duck was named MOTM on the premier league app!! How I don’t know.

madness...... their defence were horrendous yesterday and unfortunately we didn't capitalise! Van Dick showing again how unbelievably overrated he is my the media!

MOTM would likely go to their players and if anyone then it would be someone like the diving Diaz.... only person who looked like they could or would do anything!

Salad has been virtually non-existent in the 2 recent games!

 

[davep]

should have made the changes sooner, waited far too late after we missed those chances. We needed to mix the game up. We had them largely comntaimned.

100%. People would have been all over Dyche for not making any subs.

 

[johnjoeefc]

It is far from irrelevant, while I oppose violence in the game, I would support mandatory red cards for any player who strikes or attempts to strike an opponent. However football has become a game of almost no physical contact. Defenders used to be just that, defenders, there was an appreciation of a guy who could tackle and break up an attack. Nowadays we no longer have places in teams for the art of the defence, defence is a blanket thing, we no longer rely on a player who can make a challenge we rely on smothering play with numbers. Look at how the price of players has gone over the years, as forwards now cost 10s of millions the protection of them has gotten to the stage whereby a dirty look from a defender gets them a booking. Football should be a game of many skills and they should all be valued, it should be about more than kicking the ball into the net. In my view the ball was there to be won, Tarks won it.

There's got to be a balance though, that one crossed the line and he could have broken his leg. I doubt tarky meant for the follow through to go so high but he did go in full force and I think 99 referees out of 100 would have given a red on var but somehow we got away with that.

 

[davek]

Steven Warnock had a lot to say for himself last night condemning Everton.

There's a video knocking about from a few months back where he's interviewed on a podcast telling everyone how he hated Liverpool for leaving him out of the 2005 EC final squad...and slagging off Gerrard for saying he'd fight his case for a £200k bonus that all squad players got for making the 18 man squad for that game which he never did.

 

[Miked1e]

The media reaction to their offside goal, versus the Tarkowski tackle, is as laughably predictable as you would imagine

Full forensic enquiry on one.... the other nothing was said!

 

[Groucho]

The media reaction to their offside goal, versus the Tarkowski tackle, is as laughably predictable as you would imagine

It’s just the worst refereeing in the universe too.

 

[Marius57]

Will be happy if we win the league again , did celebrate but at least no mass hysteria or pitch invasion for being 4th worse team or drawing 2 all.

After spending £680m, you had to win one of your cup finals

 

[Groucho]

We stood upto them, we had an offside goal, we hit the post and we limited their chances. Was their goal offside?

We both scored a goal, only theirs got allowed.

There’s no consistency at all. We can say we’ve played well against them overall for two games this season. They were jammy.

 

[Miked1e]

Tarkowski was lucky to stay on the pitch! He went to leave one on him fair enough and every right to do so, but the height of the follow through is what should have seen him get the red! Thankfully he didn't!

The think I cannot get my head around is the RS which have very short memories of the challenges from the likes of Van Dick, Gerrard, Henderson, Carragher and others who have had the same mentality in Derby games and then cry about others doing it! Their fans are such cry asses and this is fueled by the media with full inquests into any decision that goes against them yet nothing said the other way around!

They will win the EPL this year by a canter, but as we can see from the 2 derby games.... not by them being a good team, but only because others have been so poor!

 

[Toffe3m4n]

I'm still miffed that VAR, apparently, didn't look at their goal for too long otherwise they would've seen that it was clearly offside in the build-up.

It's wrecked my head that because, of course, the narrative being backed in the media this morning is solely around the Tarkowski yellow card incident so it's been well and truly buried...

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

It is far from irrelevant, while I oppose violence in the game, I would support mandatory red cards for any player who strikes or attempts to strike an opponent. However football has become a game of almost no physical contact. Defenders used to be just that, defenders, there was an appreciation of a guy who could tackle and break up an attack. Nowadays we no longer have places in teams for the art of the defence, defence is a blanket thing, we no longer rely on a player who can make a challenge we rely on smothering play with numbers. Look at how the price of players has gone over the years, as forwards now cost 10s of millions the protection of them has gotten to the stage whereby a dirty look from a defender gets them a booking. Football should be a game of many skills and they should all be valued, it should be about more than kicking the ball into the net. In my view the ball was there to be won, Tarks won it.

All of that can be true but launching like that at knee height in a deliberate attempt to catch the other player has no part in the game and should always be a red. He could have easily cleared the ball without following through and catching the other lad. He just decided he wanted to leave one on him. It has no place in the game and it's embarrassing when one of our players does it ( and it's not the first time with him). Take the blue tinted 1970s specs off.

 

[Dario Terracotta]

Aye, it'd be deemed a "firm but fair" challenge, with an "accidental" follow through with a bent leg indicating no malice.

PS good that wasn't it when Jota got booked for mouthing off, yet completely ignored when he followed it by sarcastically applauding the lineman.

Or when the referee stood like a lemon for two minutes having just watched Nunez roll himself five inches back into the field.

Weak.

I'd say more consistent than weak,Jota should have already been booked for the dive in the first half,yep nowadays Tarkowskis is probably a red,no way would it be a red the other way around though and there would not have been a spotlight on it,and also no way would you see their players/management apologising for it.