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Lovren won a free kick in the first half by going down under a similar challenge from DCL. But he plays for Liverpool so................
davies1878
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Pretty lucky we were horrific for 70 odd minutes.hopefully the manager will know he can’t play those attacking four as there’s was no pace and nobody to put the foot on the ball, just kept going back to them
Kenny starting to look a Real player
Kenny starting to look a Real player
West Ham Fan
Player Valuation: £150k
Unfortunately, I think you will see him employ it most games; it's effective, but it's not pretty. He did the same with us and it kept us safe which is why there is a proportion of our fanbase that would welcome him back. I'm not one of them and as per the chap above who said "Enjoy the championship", I probably will, as generally we play more enjoyable football; I'd take that all day long over a match like today's, especially a derby.
I have a massive liking for Everton and think you guys will stabilise and do well this season, I'm just hoping you take Carroll of our hands in January! The Sig/Rooney "partnership" is still baffling and Williams is an oaf.
Aries
Player Valuation: £10m
Merseyside derby: Everton’s Sam Allardyce cannot hail Anfield draw as a masterstroke
H MDecember 10 2017, 6:00pm,
new
Paul Joyce
This was how Sam Allardyce will say he envisaged it: long ball over the top of Dejan Lovren, turning the Liverpool defender towards his goal, a mistake and a chance for the visiting team to strike.
Wayne Rooney did the rest, dispatching a nerveless penalty, and Allardyce was punching the air in celebration at Anfield once again and with even more gusto than that which greeted a crucial victory for Crystal Palace back in April.
Everton may still not have won at the home of their bitter rivals since 1999, but as they trudged across to salute the blue hordes at the final whistle that did not seem to matter judging by their giddy reaction.
Allardyce’s side were comprehensively outplayed and only regained parity with a long ball that drew a foul from LovrenLee Smith/Reuters
Nor did the reality that for the 76 minutes which preceded their equaliser they had been bystanders in arguably their biggest game of the season, allowed a route back into the 229th Merseyside derby only by the paucity of Liverpool’s finishing.
Everton completed just 101 passes throughout, mustered just 21.3 per cent of possession, and still emerged with a point and, more importantly, managed to deny their rivals all three.
Yet even Allardyce would be hard-pressed to describe this as a masterclass despite having pointed out Lovren’s vulnerability to the ball played in behind him after Palace’s success.
Rooney delivered the raking, cross-field pass, Lovren needlessly placed his hand on the back of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and, after the Everton striker was sent sprawling, the moment invited referee Craig Pawson to point to the penalty spot.
The decisive moment was the chance Liverpool passed up in first-half injury time
In an instant, the focus shifted from what had been an utterly supine performance from the visitors which had threatened to leave Allardyce exposed.
There had been a moment just after Jordan Pickford shanked a goal-kick straight into touch for the umpteenth time in the first half, leaving Rooney and Allardyce in competition as to who could shake their head the hardest, that it seemed pertinent to wonder just what Everton had spent the past week doing.
This was ‘Operation Anfield’? The one which had been conceived on the training pitches at Finch Farm over the past six days, Allardyce pulling himself, and his first team squad, out of Europa League dead-rubber with Apollon Limassol in Cyprus to concentrate on their master-plan?
Everton retreated backwards, conceded possession to Liverpool and tried to hit Oumar Niasse or Calvert-Lewin when the ball was turned over and play from there. They were, in truth, shocking.
Match stats
4-3-3
Liverpool 1 - 1 Everton
4-4-2
English Premier League14:15 Sunday December 10 2017
Possession
79.0%
79.0%
21.0%
21.0%
Shots
23
23
3
3
Shots on target
3
3
2
2
Corners
12
12
1
1
Fouls conceded
8
8
11
11
By the time the interval arrived and Allardyce tried to revise his approach – Niasse was hauled off, Tom Davies dragged off and Morgan Schneiderlin and Aaron Lennon introduced – he was fortunate to only be one goal in arrears.
The decisive moment was not Jürgen Klopp’s decision to leave Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho out of his starting line-up, but the chance his side passed up in first-half injury time having just gained the ascendancy following Mohamed Salah’s latest howitzer.
A break-away started when Sadio Mané slalomed away from Ashley Williams but he went for goal, when Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were stationed, unmarked, to his right, and the chance went begging.
Coutinho was left out of the starting line-up and was not able to alter the scoreline after coming onPaul Ellis/AFP
Much will be made of the absence of the Brazilian duo. Klopp had stated after the 7-0 dismantling of Spartak Moscow last midweek that he did not like the nickname ‘Fab Four’ given to messrs Coutinho, Salah, Mané and Firmino, claiming it was disrespectful to other members of his squad.
Yet no one expected him to disband it for this game.
Until Salah scored in the 42nd minute, back-heeling the ball away from Cuco Martina, brushing off Idrissa Gana Gueye and using Ashley Williams as a guide to brilliantly arc a shot into the top corner, it felt as though the question of how to stop the Egyptian and Mané had finally been answered. Take away Firmino.
If the plan was to introduce Coutinho and Firmino as Everton tired, then they entered just as Rooney restored parity. It was that sort of day for Liverpool.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...hail-anfield-draw-as-a-masterstroke-qr78l23r2
Christ Joyce really has turned bitter about us the last few months hasn’t he!!
H MDecember 10 2017, 6:00pm,
new
Paul Joyce
This was how Sam Allardyce will say he envisaged it: long ball over the top of Dejan Lovren, turning the Liverpool defender towards his goal, a mistake and a chance for the visiting team to strike.
Wayne Rooney did the rest, dispatching a nerveless penalty, and Allardyce was punching the air in celebration at Anfield once again and with even more gusto than that which greeted a crucial victory for Crystal Palace back in April.
Everton may still not have won at the home of their bitter rivals since 1999, but as they trudged across to salute the blue hordes at the final whistle that did not seem to matter judging by their giddy reaction.
Allardyce’s side were comprehensively outplayed and only regained parity with a long ball that drew a foul from LovrenLee Smith/Reuters
Nor did the reality that for the 76 minutes which preceded their equaliser they had been bystanders in arguably their biggest game of the season, allowed a route back into the 229th Merseyside derby only by the paucity of Liverpool’s finishing.
Everton completed just 101 passes throughout, mustered just 21.3 per cent of possession, and still emerged with a point and, more importantly, managed to deny their rivals all three.
Yet even Allardyce would be hard-pressed to describe this as a masterclass despite having pointed out Lovren’s vulnerability to the ball played in behind him after Palace’s success.
Rooney delivered the raking, cross-field pass, Lovren needlessly placed his hand on the back of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and, after the Everton striker was sent sprawling, the moment invited referee Craig Pawson to point to the penalty spot.
The decisive moment was the chance Liverpool passed up in first-half injury time
In an instant, the focus shifted from what had been an utterly supine performance from the visitors which had threatened to leave Allardyce exposed.
There had been a moment just after Jordan Pickford shanked a goal-kick straight into touch for the umpteenth time in the first half, leaving Rooney and Allardyce in competition as to who could shake their head the hardest, that it seemed pertinent to wonder just what Everton had spent the past week doing.
This was ‘Operation Anfield’? The one which had been conceived on the training pitches at Finch Farm over the past six days, Allardyce pulling himself, and his first team squad, out of Europa League dead-rubber with Apollon Limassol in Cyprus to concentrate on their master-plan?
Everton retreated backwards, conceded possession to Liverpool and tried to hit Oumar Niasse or Calvert-Lewin when the ball was turned over and play from there. They were, in truth, shocking.
Match stats
4-3-3
Liverpool 1 - 1 Everton
4-4-2
English Premier League14:15 Sunday December 10 2017
Possession
79.0%
79.0%
21.0%
21.0%
Shots
23
23
3
3
Shots on target
3
3
2
2
Corners
12
12
1
1
Fouls conceded
8
8
11
11
By the time the interval arrived and Allardyce tried to revise his approach – Niasse was hauled off, Tom Davies dragged off and Morgan Schneiderlin and Aaron Lennon introduced – he was fortunate to only be one goal in arrears.
The decisive moment was not Jürgen Klopp’s decision to leave Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho out of his starting line-up, but the chance his side passed up in first-half injury time having just gained the ascendancy following Mohamed Salah’s latest howitzer.
A break-away started when Sadio Mané slalomed away from Ashley Williams but he went for goal, when Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were stationed, unmarked, to his right, and the chance went begging.
Coutinho was left out of the starting line-up and was not able to alter the scoreline after coming onPaul Ellis/AFP
Much will be made of the absence of the Brazilian duo. Klopp had stated after the 7-0 dismantling of Spartak Moscow last midweek that he did not like the nickname ‘Fab Four’ given to messrs Coutinho, Salah, Mané and Firmino, claiming it was disrespectful to other members of his squad.
Yet no one expected him to disband it for this game.
Until Salah scored in the 42nd minute, back-heeling the ball away from Cuco Martina, brushing off Idrissa Gana Gueye and using Ashley Williams as a guide to brilliantly arc a shot into the top corner, it felt as though the question of how to stop the Egyptian and Mané had finally been answered. Take away Firmino.
If the plan was to introduce Coutinho and Firmino as Everton tired, then they entered just as Rooney restored parity. It was that sort of day for Liverpool.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...hail-anfield-draw-as-a-masterstroke-qr78l23r2
Christ Joyce really has turned bitter about us the last few months hasn’t he!!
Jreverton1
Player Valuation: £15m
Not sure I'd take Championship over Premier League regardless of the football, but it sounds like you've already accepted your fate. Good luck with that mate.
T LEAFE
Player Valuation: £40m
Merseyside derby: Everton’s Sam Allardyce cannot hail Anfield draw as a masterstroke
H MDecember 10 2017, 6:00pm,
new
Paul Joyce
This was how Sam Allardyce will say he envisaged it: long ball over the top of Dejan Lovren, turning the Liverpool defender towards his goal, a mistake and a chance for the visiting team to strike.
Wayne Rooney did the rest, dispatching a nerveless penalty, and Allardyce was punching the air in celebration at Anfield once again and with even more gusto than that which greeted a crucial victory for Crystal Palace back in April.
Everton may still not have won at the home of their bitter rivals since 1999, but as they trudged across to salute the blue hordes at the final whistle that did not seem to matter judging by their giddy reaction.
Allardyce’s side were comprehensively outplayed and only regained parity with a long ball that drew a foul from LovrenLee Smith/Reuters
Nor did the reality that for the 76 minutes which preceded their equaliser they had been bystanders in arguably their biggest game of the season, allowed a route back into the 229th Merseyside derby only by the paucity of Liverpool’s finishing.
Everton completed just 101 passes throughout, mustered just 21.3 per cent of possession, and still emerged with a point and, more importantly, managed to deny their rivals all three.
Yet even Allardyce would be hard-pressed to describe this as a masterclass despite having pointed out Lovren’s vulnerability to the ball played in behind him after Palace’s success.
Rooney delivered the raking, cross-field pass, Lovren needlessly placed his hand on the back of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and, after the Everton striker was sent sprawling, the moment invited referee Craig Pawson to point to the penalty spot.
The decisive moment was the chance Liverpool passed up in first-half injury time
In an instant, the focus shifted from what had been an utterly supine performance from the visitors which had threatened to leave Allardyce exposed.
There had been a moment just after Jordan Pickford shanked a goal-kick straight into touch for the umpteenth time in the first half, leaving Rooney and Allardyce in competition as to who could shake their head the hardest, that it seemed pertinent to wonder just what Everton had spent the past week doing.
This was ‘Operation Anfield’? The one which had been conceived on the training pitches at Finch Farm over the past six days, Allardyce pulling himself, and his first team squad, out of Europa League dead-rubber with Apollon Limassol in Cyprus to concentrate on their master-plan?
Everton retreated backwards, conceded possession to Liverpool and tried to hit Oumar Niasse or Calvert-Lewin when the ball was turned over and play from there. They were, in truth, shocking.
Match stats
4-3-3
Liverpool 1 - 1 Everton
4-4-2
English Premier League14:15 Sunday December 10 2017
Possession
79.0%
79.0%
21.0%
21.0%
Shots
23
23
3
3
Shots on target
3
3
2
2
Corners
12
12
1
1
Fouls conceded
8
8
11
11
By the time the interval arrived and Allardyce tried to revise his approach – Niasse was hauled off, Tom Davies dragged off and Morgan Schneiderlin and Aaron Lennon introduced – he was fortunate to only be one goal in arrears.
The decisive moment was not Jürgen Klopp’s decision to leave Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho out of his starting line-up, but the chance his side passed up in first-half injury time having just gained the ascendancy following Mohamed Salah’s latest howitzer.
A break-away started when Sadio Mané slalomed away from Ashley Williams but he went for goal, when Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were stationed, unmarked, to his right, and the chance went begging.
Coutinho was left out of the starting line-up and was not able to alter the scoreline after coming onPaul Ellis/AFP
Much will be made of the absence of the Brazilian duo. Klopp had stated after the 7-0 dismantling of Spartak Moscow last midweek that he did not like the nickname ‘Fab Four’ given to messrs Coutinho, Salah, Mané and Firmino, claiming it was disrespectful to other members of his squad.
Yet no one expected him to disband it for this game.
Until Salah scored in the 42nd minute, back-heeling the ball away from Cuco Martina, brushing off Idrissa Gana Gueye and using Ashley Williams as a guide to brilliantly arc a shot into the top corner, it felt as though the question of how to stop the Egyptian and Mané had finally been answered. Take away Firmino.
If the plan was to introduce Coutinho and Firmino as Everton tired, then they entered just as Rooney restored parity. It was that sort of day for Liverpool.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...hail-anfield-draw-as-a-masterstroke-qr78l23r2
Christ Joyce really has turned bitter about us the last few months hasn’t he!!
T LEAFE
Player Valuation: £40m
Merseyside derby: Everton’s Sam Allardyce cannot hail Anfield draw as a masterstroke
H MDecember 10 2017, 6:00pm,
new
Paul Joyce
This was how Sam Allardyce will say he envisaged it: long ball over the top of Dejan Lovren, turning the Liverpool defender towards his goal, a mistake and a chance for the visiting team to strike.
Wayne Rooney did the rest, dispatching a nerveless penalty, and Allardyce was punching the air in celebration at Anfield once again and with even more gusto than that which greeted a crucial victory for Crystal Palace back in April.
Everton may still not have won at the home of their bitter rivals since 1999, but as they trudged across to salute the blue hordes at the final whistle that did not seem to matter judging by their giddy reaction.
Allardyce’s side were comprehensively outplayed and only regained parity with a long ball that drew a foul from LovrenLee Smith/Reuters
Nor did the reality that for the 76 minutes which preceded their equaliser they had been bystanders in arguably their biggest game of the season, allowed a route back into the 229th Merseyside derby only by the paucity of Liverpool’s finishing.
Everton completed just 101 passes throughout, mustered just 21.3 per cent of possession, and still emerged with a point and, more importantly, managed to deny their rivals all three.
Yet even Allardyce would be hard-pressed to describe this as a masterclass despite having pointed out Lovren’s vulnerability to the ball played in behind him after Palace’s success.
Rooney delivered the raking, cross-field pass, Lovren needlessly placed his hand on the back of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and, after the Everton striker was sent sprawling, the moment invited referee Craig Pawson to point to the penalty spot.
The decisive moment was the chance Liverpool passed up in first-half injury time
In an instant, the focus shifted from what had been an utterly supine performance from the visitors which had threatened to leave Allardyce exposed.
There had been a moment just after Jordan Pickford shanked a goal-kick straight into touch for the umpteenth time in the first half, leaving Rooney and Allardyce in competition as to who could shake their head the hardest, that it seemed pertinent to wonder just what Everton had spent the past week doing.
This was ‘Operation Anfield’? The one which had been conceived on the training pitches at Finch Farm over the past six days, Allardyce pulling himself, and his first team squad, out of Europa League dead-rubber with Apollon Limassol in Cyprus to concentrate on their master-plan?
Everton retreated backwards, conceded possession to Liverpool and tried to hit Oumar Niasse or Calvert-Lewin when the ball was turned over and play from there. They were, in truth, shocking.
Match stats
4-3-3
Liverpool 1 - 1 Everton
4-4-2
English Premier League14:15 Sunday December 10 2017
Possession
79.0%
79.0%
21.0%
21.0%
Shots
23
23
3
3
Shots on target
3
3
2
2
Corners
12
12
1
1
Fouls conceded
8
8
11
11
By the time the interval arrived and Allardyce tried to revise his approach – Niasse was hauled off, Tom Davies dragged off and Morgan Schneiderlin and Aaron Lennon introduced – he was fortunate to only be one goal in arrears.
The decisive moment was not Jürgen Klopp’s decision to leave Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho out of his starting line-up, but the chance his side passed up in first-half injury time having just gained the ascendancy following Mohamed Salah’s latest howitzer.
A break-away started when Sadio Mané slalomed away from Ashley Williams but he went for goal, when Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were stationed, unmarked, to his right, and the chance went begging.
Coutinho was left out of the starting line-up and was not able to alter the scoreline after coming onPaul Ellis/AFP
Much will be made of the absence of the Brazilian duo. Klopp had stated after the 7-0 dismantling of Spartak Moscow last midweek that he did not like the nickname ‘Fab Four’ given to messrs Coutinho, Salah, Mané and Firmino, claiming it was disrespectful to other members of his squad.
Yet no one expected him to disband it for this game.
Until Salah scored in the 42nd minute, back-heeling the ball away from Cuco Martina, brushing off Idrissa Gana Gueye and using Ashley Williams as a guide to brilliantly arc a shot into the top corner, it felt as though the question of how to stop the Egyptian and Mané had finally been answered. Take away Firmino.
If the plan was to introduce Coutinho and Firmino as Everton tired, then they entered just as Rooney restored parity. It was that sort of day for Liverpool.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...hail-anfield-draw-as-a-masterstroke-qr78l23r2
Christ Joyce really has turned bitter about us the last few months hasn’t he!!
Merseyside derby: Everton’s Sam Allardyce cannot hail Anfield draw as a masterstroke
H MDecember 10 2017, 6:00pm,
new
Paul Joyce
This was how Sam Allardyce will say he envisaged it: long ball over the top of Dejan Lovren, turning the Liverpool defender towards his goal, a mistake and a chance for the visiting team to strike.
Wayne Rooney did the rest, dispatching a nerveless penalty, and Allardyce was punching the air in celebration at Anfield once again and with even more gusto than that which greeted a crucial victory for Crystal Palace back in April.
Everton may still not have won at the home of their bitter rivals since 1999, but as they trudged across to salute the blue hordes at the final whistle that did not seem to matter judging by their giddy reaction.
Allardyce’s side were comprehensively outplayed and only regained parity with a long ball that drew a foul from LovrenLee Smith/Reuters
Nor did the reality that for the 76 minutes which preceded their equaliser they had been bystanders in arguably their biggest game of the season, allowed a route back into the 229th Merseyside derby only by the paucity of Liverpool’s finishing.
Everton completed just 101 passes throughout, mustered just 21.3 per cent of possession, and still emerged with a point and, more importantly, managed to deny their rivals all three.
Yet even Allardyce would be hard-pressed to describe this as a masterclass despite having pointed out Lovren’s vulnerability to the ball played in behind him after Palace’s success.
Rooney delivered the raking, cross-field pass, Lovren needlessly placed his hand on the back of Dominic Calvert-Lewin and, after the Everton striker was sent sprawling, the moment invited referee Craig Pawson to point to the penalty spot.
The decisive moment was the chance Liverpool passed up in first-half injury time
In an instant, the focus shifted from what had been an utterly supine performance from the visitors which had threatened to leave Allardyce exposed.
There had been a moment just after Jordan Pickford shanked a goal-kick straight into touch for the umpteenth time in the first half, leaving Rooney and Allardyce in competition as to who could shake their head the hardest, that it seemed pertinent to wonder just what Everton had spent the past week doing.
This was ‘Operation Anfield’? The one which had been conceived on the training pitches at Finch Farm over the past six days, Allardyce pulling himself, and his first team squad, out of Europa League dead-rubber with Apollon Limassol in Cyprus to concentrate on their master-plan?
Everton retreated backwards, conceded possession to Liverpool and tried to hit Oumar Niasse or Calvert-Lewin when the ball was turned over and play from there. They were, in truth, shocking.
Match stats
4-3-3
Liverpool 1 - 1 Everton
4-4-2
English Premier League14:15 Sunday December 10 2017
Possession
79.0%
79.0%
21.0%
21.0%
Shots
23
23
3
3
Shots on target
3
3
2
2
Corners
12
12
1
1
Fouls conceded
8
8
11
11
By the time the interval arrived and Allardyce tried to revise his approach – Niasse was hauled off, Tom Davies dragged off and Morgan Schneiderlin and Aaron Lennon introduced – he was fortunate to only be one goal in arrears.
The decisive moment was not Jürgen Klopp’s decision to leave Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho out of his starting line-up, but the chance his side passed up in first-half injury time having just gained the ascendancy following Mohamed Salah’s latest howitzer.
A break-away started when Sadio Mané slalomed away from Ashley Williams but he went for goal, when Dominic Solanke, Mohamed Salah and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were stationed, unmarked, to his right, and the chance went begging.
Coutinho was left out of the starting line-up and was not able to alter the scoreline after coming onPaul Ellis/AFP
Much will be made of the absence of the Brazilian duo. Klopp had stated after the 7-0 dismantling of Spartak Moscow last midweek that he did not like the nickname ‘Fab Four’ given to messrs Coutinho, Salah, Mané and Firmino, claiming it was disrespectful to other members of his squad.
Yet no one expected him to disband it for this game.
Until Salah scored in the 42nd minute, back-heeling the ball away from Cuco Martina, brushing off Idrissa Gana Gueye and using Ashley Williams as a guide to brilliantly arc a shot into the top corner, it felt as though the question of how to stop the Egyptian and Mané had finally been answered. Take away Firmino.
If the plan was to introduce Coutinho and Firmino as Everton tired, then they entered just as Rooney restored parity. It was that sort of day for Liverpool.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...hail-anfield-draw-as-a-masterstroke-qr78l23r2
Christ Joyce really has turned bitter about us the last few months hasn’t he!!
Just like big Gurning Jurgen, Joyce is unhappy his boys haven't leathered us.
Adam-GOTTV
Player Valuation: £8m
"These Brexit weirdos" or whatever he said. Haha. One tiny snippet of the fanbase showed there's a % who think a European superstate might be a bad idea and the blokes having a full-blown breakdown and trying to use it as a stick to beat us? Anybody know his name because I'm about to do the pod with @Groucho and we'll reference this.
Wait who said Solanke was better than DCL before btw?
Own up.
Own up.
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