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windymiller
Player Valuation: £60m
Football clubs don't own the players under contract with them, they are employees on fixed term contracts with all the risks and benefits that come with that. If Garbutt hadn't made the grade no one on here would be wringing their hands about the club releasing him to an uncertain future of unemployment, retraining or ekeing out a living in the lower echelons of the football pyramid. Football clubs, at least at the top end of the game, are, sadly, no longer community groups. They are big businesses. Garbutt didn't grow up an Evertonian, so why should he show any more affection to Everton than a trainee architect does to his firm or a butchers apprentice to the supermarket he trained in. I'm sure he looks fondly on Everton but if he has better chance of game time elsewhere isn't it laudable to want to play rather than sit on the bench and play a handful of games when the first choice player is injured, banned or rested?
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
That's exactly the type of market logic I'm talking about. 'Maximize your market value'.
Football isn't a butchers or supermarket though. It's a cultural organisation where playing for the community and subsuming yourself in it are prized. It's why we revere more any player who stays at the one club, and why we call (in an affectionate, non-serf like way) some players servants: because they put club before career (and it doesn't have to be local players to do that either).
Seems we're losing that type of outlook if the Garbutt reaction is anything to go by. Whatever is instrumental to his career is seen to be right and proper and any argument against that is viewed as holding the individual in question back.
TheFinnFan
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I think RS will get him. They will be humiliated in transfer market this summer so they will take the pleasure out off this one and laugh at us.
Where has this "Englands future fullback" come from ?
Garbutt is third choice left back at Everton for a reason. He is a mile behind Oviedo and several miles behind Baines.
It isn't even certain yet that he is a premiership full back never mind an international full back.
I think that Garbutt is probably doing the right thing for his career, as long as he goes to a club where he will play every Saturday. I don't regard that as greedy, but as a young lad who needs to be playing every week.
If we were in a position to offer him regular football I think he would happily stay, but nobody can seriously suggest playing him ahead of Baines.
Garbutt is third choice left back at Everton for a reason. He is a mile behind Oviedo and several miles behind Baines.
It isn't even certain yet that he is a premiership full back never mind an international full back.
I think that Garbutt is probably doing the right thing for his career, as long as he goes to a club where he will play every Saturday. I don't regard that as greedy, but as a young lad who needs to be playing every week.
If we were in a position to offer him regular football I think he would happily stay, but nobody can seriously suggest playing him ahead of Baines.
I think people are getting a bit carried away with Garbutt to be honest. He's a decent player yes, he's no Beckenbauer though. Get the paperwork sorted for him to sign, if he's not interested, then [Poor language removed] him off. Just get it done asap so we can all move on, and the Club can start planning for next season.
Folk saying Oviedo should be sold and Garbutt better are absolutely nuts!! He's 3rd choice for a reason, because we got 2 left backs well better than him. When ( and it's a big when ) Baines form takes a nosedive that he can't recover from, well it's Oviedos turn or has everyone forgotten how patient he was before his leg break to be given a chance. Freak metatarsal injury doesn't make him injury prone. He's had a bad leg break, hamstring and now this. Apart from that he's been pretty sound injury wise.
Dithering Dougie
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3 words Macca
World. Class. Corners.
His corners alone will get us 2-3 points a season, Ovideo can't compete with that sort of thing..
His corners are boss Dougie but both Baines and Oviedo are cracking all rounders. Not too arsed if he goes tbh, he's sound and got a good haircut like but if he wants to go he can take that nice Barnet and wand of a left foot with him the probable Kopite bellend!!
Garbutt will be England's left back in 2 years time...keeping him signed for another year is crucial
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You just like him cos he's young, you kiddy poker.
Fans are the first to have a go at players happy to sit on the bench and collect ££, but now we are fuming with garbutt for wanting to play regularly because he's our player.
If he goes to Bournmouth/Leeds/Swansea etc and plays every game then i have no problem as hes moved for the right reasons. If he goes to Liverpool/Spurs and sits on the bench then its obviously about the money.
Think we need to see what happens with him before rounding up the lynch mob.
If he goes to Bournmouth/Leeds/Swansea etc and plays every game then i have no problem as hes moved for the right reasons. If he goes to Liverpool/Spurs and sits on the bench then its obviously about the money.
Think we need to see what happens with him before rounding up the lynch mob.
TheFinnFan
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If you love him let him go x
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