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Man Utd get more injury time when they need it, The Guardian

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Revealed: Manchester United get more injury time when they need it | Football | The Guardian

Mr. Ferguson likes to boast that his Manchester United team score more late goals than any other side in the world. Others argue that they get a bit of extra help from referees. It has now emerged that the Premier League champions do, as suspected, benefit from an imbalance in the amount of stoppage time that is added to their matches.

After the controversy over Michael Owen's winning goal in Sunday's Manchester derby, the Guardian has looked at all of United's league matches at Old Trafford since the start of the 2006-07 season and discovered that, on average, there has been over a minute extra added by referees when United do not have the lead after 90 minutes, compared to when they are in front. In 48 games when United were ahead, the average amount of stoppage time was 191.35 seconds. In 12 matches when United were drawing or losing there was an average of 257.17sec.

The average stoppage time added at Old Trafford in the period in question is below that given at Anfield, the Emirates Stadium and Stamford Bridge. United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec. But there is also evidence to support the suspicions of many managers, players and supporters that United get preferential treatment at home. When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed". His sense of grievance will not be helped if he analyses the last three seasons.

In 2006-07, for example, United were winning 15 times on entering stoppage time and referees added an average 194.53sec. In the four games when United were not winning there was an average of 217.25sec. The following year the disparity was greater, Opta's figures showing an average 178.29sec added when United were winning and 254.5sec when they were not. Last season it was 187.71sec compared to 258.6sec.

The pattern has continued in the first three games of the season. In the two games United have led they have played an average 304sec of injury time. On Sunday, Atkinson allowed the game to go on for 415sec.
 
United's is 205 seconds, compared to Liverpool's 210sec, Arsenal's 224sec and Chelsea's 229sec.

It says you's get more of that treatment too .
 
Yeah the average...how many times do United drop points at home? Not often...

True. Not saying they dont get random added time, but its the same for all the top 4 teams.

Chelsea last week got the winner agasint Stoke in the 95th minutes or something. Most stoke fans dont know where that came from but it did.
 

Anyone here interested in the idea being put out of having an official timekeeper in addition to the ref and assistant refs? Seems a bit excessive to me but does anyone think it's worth a go?
 
When Owen made it 4-3 on Sunday the game was five minutes and 26 seconds into stoppage time. In total, the referee, Martin Atkinson, allowed almost seven minutes, even though the fourth official had signalled a minimum of four. Mark Hughes, the City manager, spoke of feeling "robbed".

Mark Hughes should shut up.

But on topic, thanks for the old news!! :P
 
Didnt Hughes ramble on about his sides celebrations taking 45 seconds or so on MOTD2? and didnt united score in the time added,in part by those celebrations?

Or am i missing something
 
Didnt Hughes ramble on about his sides celebrations taking 45 seconds or so on MOTD2? and didnt united score in the time added,in part by those celebrations?

Or am i missing something

There was something like that. He said 90secs, but was actually 45 or vice versa. Either way he was shown to be complaining over nothing.
 
And something to remember, the 4 minutes indicated by the 4th official is a MINIMUM. Meaning more time can be played, if Utd need to score to win.

But on the flip side, people only complain when they are on the other end of the goal scored. If Hughes side scored in the 96th minute, then he wouldn't be complaining one bit.
 

There was something like that. He said 90secs, but was actually 45 or vice versa. Either way he was shown to be complaining over nothing.


If the ref added the 45 seconds, than that would mean a minumum of 4 minutes AND 45 seconds. Which would put Owen's goal just 40 seconds outside of the minimum required. Which isn't much. Often ref's let developing plays develop before blowing, and other times they stick to the watch (remembers the time where the ref blew inbetween the ball leaving a players foot and going in, and the goal didn't stand)
 
what exactly is the point i am missing here ? as it says the shoite get more time added, which only highlights the fact that you aren't as good as them even more, as you are getting more time to accumulate points over the season than them and still cant manage it.
or is the point to prove that the sky4 are given an advantage, i think we may be making some ground here and the kopite is starting to realise his true calling in life, as we bring things to his attention that his clubs propaganda omits in the style of dictatorships and dodgy regimes.
 
If the ref added the 45 seconds, than that would mean a minumum of 4 minutes AND 45 seconds. Which would put Owen's goal just 40 seconds outside of the minimum required. Which isn't much. Often ref's let developing plays develop before blowing, and other times they stick to the watch (remembers the time where the ref blew inbetween the ball leaving a players foot and going in, and the goal didn't stand)

Match Of The Day 2 timed it over here - Bellamy's celebration was 56 seconds, subsitutions are given 30seconds. So totals 1 minutes 26 seconds or something added time on to 4 minutes. So 5 minutes 26 seconds should've been played....
Owen scored on 95minutes 27seconds...1 second over the time limit.

Referees also cant stop play for a goal clear scoring oppourtinity (although it happened to Carlton Cole last week, which was ridiculous and should've stood).
 

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