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Managers within our reach

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Billy Dean said:
Conte and Mancini wouldn't come. Sampaoli would be awesome.
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Never mind that he looked dreadful as Argentina coach:

On 13 December 2018, Brazilian club Santos FC announced that Sampaoli reached an "agreement in principle" to become the club's manager for the 2019 season.[53] He signed a two-year contract on 17 December,[54] being presented the following day.
 
RomanReigns said:
david moyes on an 18 month contract

no harm in giving it a go

a manager who at least had some passion whilst in charge with us
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there is every harm mate, too many to list tbh. Id say the main reason for me though is you are just going to reunite that partnership between Moyes and Blue Bill and that is what started us down the road to this current life of mediocrity.
 
ToffeeTim said:
Because we've had plenty of dull appointments based on previous experience in the league and they've all taken us backwards.

We're in a position where in my opinion, we can't fall much lower. Our position in English football hasn't been this low since Walter Smith. I don't want a bland flavour of the month appointment. People look on these sort of managers as safe but they arent really.

I see Arteta as the left field option with a potentially very high ceiling. I rate Pep as second only to Fergie. A born winner. You cant be around him for periods and not learn. Don't forget Arsenal saw something they liked in Arteta and were very close to appointing him. And I'm talking about Arsenal. A massive club in European football.

Clearly a gamble but a long term option with massive potential. He will give a morale boost short term. He will unify the club. He will understand that he needs to restore the fighting spirit we lack. But is working under the most intelligent progressive coach and would seek to implement that over time. He's a favourite and this would buy him patience, goodwill and above all, time. The next boss needs time.

I'm excited by him. It's a gamble obviously. But I wanna roll the dice.

Follow follow follow.
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Some great points mate. I' not wholly against Arteta but if we were to do it, I think it makes sense to do it sooner rather than later.
 

Throw the kitchen sink and a war chest at mourinho.

Real statement appointment. Bloke who picks up trophies for fun and ruffles the reds.

Bloke who won’t be afraid to call out kenwright and other small time Charlie’s.
 
If Brands gets to make the call and Silva is sacked, almost inevitable that we will appoint Cocu
 
Simon Buttle said:
there is every harm mate, too many to list tbh. Id say the main reason for me though is you are just going to reunite that partnership between Moyes and Blue Bill and that is what started us down the road to this current life of mediocrity.
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What rubbish - don’t you recall Mike Walker, Wilkinson’s last stint and Walter Smith?

The fact is we would have ended up in the lower leagues if not for Moyes. Also his skill in the transfer market helped stop us going bankrupt. Do you forget just how dire our financial situation was!
 
JobForTheMoyes said:
Never mind that he looked dreadful as Argentina coach:

On 13 December 2018, Brazilian club Santos FC announced that Sampaoli reached an "agreement in principle" to become the club's manager for the 2019 season.[53] He signed a two-year contract on 17 December,[54] being presented the following day.
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Won th Copa with Chile, did well at Sevilla. Compare to your preferred choic who went stale in 2010.
 

JobForTheMoyes said:
What rubbish - don’t you recall Mike Walker, Wilkinson’s last stint and Walter Smith?

The fact is we would have ended up in the lower leagues if not for Moyes. Also his skill in the transfer market help stop us going bankrupt. Do you forget just how dire our financial situation was!
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We nearly did end up in the lower leagues because of him one season. the only thing Moyes was good at was the transfer market, he excelled with it and would make an excellent DOF somewhere. I am no fan of his managerial approach which has been shown to be limited wherever he has been. As for the money stuff, he seemed more than happy to go along with Blue Bills penny pinching ways for a number of years.
 
LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
I agree with that mate, the problem is though, you can look at a young manager with no track record and go "Yeah, there is just something about him, something different from the norm, you can see he has a vision" but it's really hard to see that in Silva at this moment in time because he continues to play the same way week in, week out even though it's not working, and he's starting to look tactically inept.

Now I know we need to be patient (the end of the season, and the first 10 games of next season for me) but I can understand and respect why some lads want him gone now.
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I understand it also - why people would want him out

Ultimately I think there are more fundamental problems at Everton, akin to the England football team. Expectations are maybe too high and there seems to be a toxic culture within the fanbase

It's hard to really fault the choices Moshiri etc have made bringing in the managers they did - you could see the logic behind each. More money is being spent than ever before, but managers are being given no time or patience to get things right

Like I say, I wouldn't have hired him, but the best thing for Silva right now would be for the fans to be supportive to the end of the season - that will take pressure of him and the players and may have a positive effect. Otherwise, it's a downward spiral of negativity - compounded on each loss - inevitably he'll be sacked and another manager will need to be hired, but chances are they won't do any better

It seems that now, if we get anywhere close to mid table / top of the bottom half, then the axe looms. Moyes actually had several seasons close to relgation, or yoyoed between near relegation escapes and top half finishes, before getting into the groove of consistently good finishes. If he had joined today, he probably wouldn't have lasted more than a season or two...
 
Right at this moment I hate the club. It's crap. You can have all that '...y'gotta keep supportin' them though' fluff all day long, fact is nothing's changing...HE'S not changing. We've got the staff there (top striker aside like) but we're awful, like watching a Sunday bevvy-team that meets in the car-park prior and has a ciggy & a quick chat before the game. Utter Sh1te.

The set piece concerns were flagged as early as September - it's February and the same shiz is happening week in, week out. Factor that in with the numbers from his time at WAT & HULL then...simply, he's not gonna change a thing is he.

And he's unlikely to get a chance as big as this one again.

And, sadly, I genuinely feel he's blew it already.

We're awful to watch and awful to support right now. Richalison's a miserable, petulant floor-smackin kid and.....blimey....has any striker at the club ever improved whilst FERGUSON's had any imput of any sort?

Crap.

I'm at the point where I think I'd even be OK with MOYES on an interim app.

See, they're making me unwell...:Blink:
 

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