2019/20 Marcel Brands

[Amw79]

Silva bought Richarlison a couple of seasons earlier and persuaded him to come to England. He was the connection with the player. You are completely kidding yourself if you believe that Brands was the instigator of that signing for us.

I didn’t say he was the instigator, I said it’s irrelevant.

He’s the DoF. He has final say. He’s accountable. Credit for the good. Criticism for the bad.

 

[nsno-chris]

Carlo bends the knee to Marcel

it’s the way it is

 

[chippy1722]

Brands could get away with more when Silva was here, he was the one with a reputation and had the backing. He probably made the transfer decisions.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out with a manager who has a bigger name and reputation, and may have different idea’s regarding transfers.

 

[Tennessee Blue Mike]

Looking a bit like Mr. Smithers twiddling his thumbs lately.

 

[Paul Rideout]

I didn’t say he was the instigator, I said it’s irrelevant.

He’s the DoF. He has final say. He’s accountable. Credit for the good. Criticism for the bad.

There’s no point mate - this same irrefutable logic gets ignored cyclically every week or so.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Brands could get away with more when Silva was here, he was the one with a reputation and had the backing. He probably made the transfer decisions.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out with a manager who has a bigger name and reputation, and may have different idea’s regarding transfers.

It’s probably a joint thing isn’t it. The DOF and manager will be looking at the profile of player they need which probably changes depending on who the manager is. Silva may have been asking for a new number 10 whereas Ancelloti probably won’t be.

It was probably apparent to Silva and Brands that Everton needed a wide forward after 17/18 were Bolasie was injured/not good enough and Siggurdson and Sandro has been found wanting out wide. Brands could well have drawn up a shortlist that may have contained Richarlison and if Silva prefers him over the others and had the sway to get him then of course he becomes top target.

If Ancelloti presents Brands with a short list of 5 right wingers and Ancelotti wants one of them more than the rest does that make it his signing? They’re both accountable for recruitment so this game of attributing all poor signings to Brands and any decent ones to the manager that some people seem to be playing is a futile one.

 

[Blue Roo]

The problem for Brands is that his status as a DoF is undermined already in Ancelotti's eyes. It must be. Ancelotti will know that wherever he's gone he's been the dominant force at the club in terms of playing side, but he'd have been brought in by a DoF at other clubs and so there would be at least that respect and understanding that ultimately he'd need to take the DoF seriously, as he'd also have a say in his departure. That doesn't exist here. Ancelotti knows that the major football decisions are taken by the owner, with Kenwright probably above Brands also in the pecking order.

Absolute wham!
They've both got jobs to do. Why does there need to conflict here.
Carlo's presence will most likely produce a bigger pool of potential candidates.
Thats good for Brands. Thats good for the club.
Its that simple.

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

I think it will be sensible discussion between both parties. Anceltotti doesn’t strike me as been a despot like koeman. Brands seems a reasonable approachable type. I think we are making something out of nothing here. They are both high level professionals.

 

[RogerStringpiece1878]

Be honest lads, do we really need Brands around now we have Don Carlo?

The answer is no.

Roger.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Be honest lads, do we really need Brands around now we have Don Carlo?

The answer is no.

Roger.

Is Carlo going to run the scouting department, over see the academy, be looking at prospects in all age groups across the world, be managing loans and sales for the academy players, negotiate the commercial side of deals?

Or do we just let him get on with coaching the team and leave all that to the bloke we apparently don’t need?

 

[Goat]

Carlo bends the knee to Marcel

it’s the way it is

Please Mr Brands can I have some players
No baccy fingers

 

[bcblue1878]

The rule, as we all know, is that if Dave likes the player it was Ancelottis work.

And if he doesn't it's all down to Brands! Going slightly further back apparently Niasse wasn't a Martinez signing either lollollol!

 

[Blue Roo]

Brands is under pressure, and rightly so. He knows generally speaking what he's done here hasn't been of any transformative value. He knows he struggles on outgoings, he knows the obvious poor signings he's made, he knows above all that we all see he was powerless in determining Silva's departure and had no input into Ancelotti's appointment.
He's a hologram.

You make his job sound easy, never weighing up his performance against the difficulties faced.
A few examples:
1. Everton, without the likes of Carlo at the helm, rules out a lot of players

2. The pool Brands gets to negotiate in is highly competitive and limited relative to the expectations and standing of Everton - a club which is becoming more and more unique in this way. Who are we competing with for players (just within the PL) - Man United and Chelsea or Wolves and West Ham. Everton lies somewhere in between, more likely to get a Man U cast off and a Wolves player looking to go further. Squeezed between the two, beyond these types of transfers- its limited.

3. Many of the up and coming most talented players we could of had a chance at signing are choosing not to go to non top six PL sides, they'e choosing leagues like the Bundesliga and sides like Red Bull Leipzig and Leverkusen. This is resulting in talent and quality of play, outside the top six, declining in the PL. They are just as likely to choose Red Bull Salzburg. If your young elite talent looking to get into the worlds top side these types of clubs are arguably a better stepping stone. Its partly because of European football, partly because the football is a bit more freer. Mid table clubs in the PL do not take the risks that other leagues do bc the cost of failure is bigger in the PL.

4. But the biggest thing for me Dave, you don't make the link between the difficulty of achieving a CL level squad while you have guys like Raiola manipulating the playing field to suit his (and others) narratives. Where does Everton fit into these narratives? There's very little Brands can do about these scourges. Yet the expectations remain.

What has been argued by many on the forum, post Moyes, has been until we get a top coach with pull (not a Silva or a Martinez) nothing much was going to change. Well the club's got one now. Lets see what Brands can do....over the next few seasons.

 

[Catfish Blues]

You make his job sound easy, never weighing up his performance against the difficulties faced.
A few examples:
1. Everton, without the likes of Carlo at the helm, rules out a lot of players

2. The pool Brands gets to negotiate in is highly competitive and limited relative to the expectations and standing of Everton - a club which is becoming more and more unique in this way. Who are we competing with for players (just within the PL) - Man United and Chelsea or Wolves and West Ham. Everton lies somewhere in between, more likely to get a Man U cast off and a Wolves player looking to go further. Squeezed between the two, beyond these types of transfers- its limited.

3. Many of the up and coming most talented players we could of had a chance at signing are choosing not to go to non top six PL sides, they'e choosing leagues like the Bundesliga and sides like Red Bull Leipzig and Leverkusen. This is resulting in talent and quality of play, outside the top six, declining in the PL. They are just as likely to choose Red Bull Salzburg. If your young elite talent looking to get into the worlds top side these types of clubs are arguably a better stepping stone. Its partly because of European football, partly because the football is a bit more freer. Mid table clubs in the PL do not take the risks that other leagues do bc the cost of failure is bigger in the PL.

4. But the biggest thing for me Dave, you don't make the link between the difficulty of achieving a CL level squad while you have guys like Raiola manipulating the playing field to suit his (and others) narratives. Where does Everton fit into these narratives? There's very little Brands can do about these scourges. Yet the expectations remain.

What has been argued by many on the forum, post Moyes, has been until we get a top coach with pull (not a Silva or a Martinez) nothing much was going to change. Well the club's got one now. Lets see what Brands can do....over the next few seasons.

I don't think he can hear you mate. Looks like the boss man sent him to the naughty step for a bit at lunchtime.

As for Brands, did well in his first summer, not so great last summer.

 

[Goat]

I don't think he can hear you mate. Looks like the boss man sent him to the naughty step for a bit at lunchtime.

As for Brands, did well in his first summer, not so great last summer.

Gomes, Gmblammo both missing for most of the season, Iwobi picking u knocks, Kean was bought for the future, peoples weird obsession with claiming Delph is rubbish.

Think people were more angry about who he didnt sign.

Zouma who looks league one and Zaha who looks League two both justify his desire not to sign either.