2019/20 Marcel Brands

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GwladysBlue said:
You think Silva, who we all know is VERY close to Richarlison, someone Richarlison has described as a father figure, didn’t have any influence on his move here? Come off it.
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The same people who genuinely believe Richarlison was a Brands signing and not a Silva one must believe that our recruitment team wanted Kone, Robles and Alcatraz and Bobby Martinez being our manager was just a coincidence lol
 

Marcel Brands when he arrived in 2018 said that it was a long term project to get everything in place and it could be 4 or 5 years before all the benefits could have been seen! He took over us when we had over 40 players in 1st team squad and lets be honest, there was a lot of crap in it and all on serious money ;-( We had a squad with players of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva ;-(

He has brought in players like Digne, Gomes, Richarlison, Mina, Kean, Bernard, Gbamin and to lesser extent Iwobi and Delph !
He has send younger players like Holgate out on loan who has come back better and hopefully Kenny and Gibson will be the same :-) Gibson stated the only reason he signed contract renewal was Brands gave him a clear idea of route into 1st team also and Kean was similar :-)

Richarlison said it was both Silva and Brands who encouraged him to move here but Brands over all idea of the clubs vision that sold it to him :)

Brands has moved on a lot of players, even if on loans, that were never suited to us and on crazy wages ;-( These were unhappy players too and better away from the club !

We as fans don't think about our club like a business or economic entity which it is in the modern world :-( The papers said we were after Zaha last summer for 90 million or whatever but because Iwobi was signed his crap etc :-( His been average admittedly but Zaha could have been same as Silva was an average Manager ;-( Now , we have Ancelloti, who is a proper TOP class Manager , and can and will work well with Brands ;-) Brand haters said he should have got CB? He had a couple in Italy lined up, Silva wanted Zouma so when Chelsea got banned we were screwed over but Holgate has become key player this year so sorry he did'nt leave us short ;-) Midfield, We signed Gomes fulltime, Gbamin and Delph to cover Gana leaving which was going to happen anyway but who could fore see 2 of the 3 getting long term injuries? but we also have Schneiderlin, Davis there too so sorry no need to buy even more midfielders until others shifted out ;-) Again we signed Kean, one of the worlds biggest potential stars but no its not enough ;-( We were playing with 1 up top and had DCL, Tosun and Naisse on books but no we need to sign experienced players like Danny bloody Ings by some on here for 35 million and 150,000 a week salary :-(

Brands job is to ensure getting vale for money and increase commercial value of playing staff :-) Again this summer, we ll have 8 more off salaries ;-) Garbutt, on 35 grand a week and we were struggling to get him a loan in league 1 :-( among them

Football has changed and not like it was 30 or 40 years ago and Everton when Premiership started did'nt adapt so are playing catch up to everyone else ;-( We are getting our new stadium now, have players with huge followings and getting media attention in countries where we never did before so look at positives too rather than always try to be negative about the people actually tryng to do something for club :-)
 
People going on about Richarlison’s signing like it’s a bad thing. So what if we used his connection to Silva to get him in the shirt, the fact is we signed him and he’s a very good player. This fanbase has to moan about absolutely everything.
 
ParisToffee said:
Marcel Brands when he arrived in 2018 said that it was a long term project to get everything in place and it could be 4 or 5 years before all the benefits could have been seen! He took over us when we had over 40 players in 1st team squad and lets be honest, there was a lot of crap in it and all on serious money ;-( We had a squad with players of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva ;-(

He has brought in players like Digne, Gomes, Richarlison, Mina, Kean, Bernard, Gbamin and to lesser extent Iwobi and Delph !
He has send younger players like Holgate out on loan who has come back better and hopefully Kenny and Gibson will be the same :) Gibson stated the only reason he signed contract renewal was Brands gave him a clear idea of route into 1st team also and Kean was similar :)

Richarlison said it was both Silva and Brands who encouraged him to move here but Brands over all idea of the clubs vision that sold it to him :)

Brands has moved on a lot of players, even if on loans, that were never suited to us and on crazy wages ;-( These were unhappy players too and better away from the club !

We as fans don't think about our club like a business or economic entity which it is in the modern world :-( The papers said we were after Zaha last summer for 90 million or whatever but because Iwobi was signed his crap etc :-( His been average admittedly but Zaha could have been same as Silva was an average Manager ;-( Now , we have Ancelloti, who is a proper TOP class Manager , and can and will work well with Brands ;-) Brand haters said he should have got CB? He had a couple in Italy lined up, Silva wanted Zouma so when Chelsea got banned we were screwed over but Holgate has become key player this year so sorry he did'nt leave us short ;-) Midfield, We signed Gomes fulltime, Gbamin and Delph to cover Gana leaving which was going to happen anyway but who could fore see 2 of the 3 getting long term injuries? but we also have Schneiderlin, Davis there too so sorry no need to buy even more midfielders until others shifted out ;-) Again we signed Kean, one of the worlds biggest potential stars but no its not enough ;-( We were playing with 1 up top and had DCL, Tosun and Naisse on books but no we need to sign experienced players like Danny bloody Ings by some on here for 35 million and 150,000 a week salary :-(

Brands job is to ensure getting vale for money and increase commercial value of playing staff :) Again this summer, we ll have 8 more off salaries ;-) Garbutt, on 35 grand a week and we were struggling to get him a loan in league 1 :-( among them

Football has changed and not like it was 30 or 40 years ago and Everton when Premiership started did'nt adapt so are playing catch up to everyone else ;-( We are getting our new stadium now, have players with huge followings and getting media attention in countries where we never did before so look at positives too rather than always try to be negative about the people actually tryng to do something for club :)
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Everyone knew it would be a massive turnaround job when Brands arrived. We had a terrible squad with players on long contracts but none of them had any real value in the market. People now seem to be criticising Brands because he hasn’t made us successful immediately but the hard yards are being done every window from my perspective with dross heading out and better players heading in. We’ve been a bit unlucky (as always with Everton) with Gomes and Gbamin missing nearly the entire season, and Delph and Iwobi also missing large portions.

We’re on a far better direction with players like Richarlison Digne Gomes Calvert Lewin Holgate than we were before with Rooney Bolaise Siggurdson Klaasen etc. A couple more windows and we’ll run off the end of the five year mark from Koeman’s disastrous 2017 window and hopefully see the end of the likes of Siggurdson Schneiderlin Bolasie Keane Tosun etc. It will take time though.
 
killenefc said:
People going on about Richarlison’s signing like it’s a bad thing. So what if we used his connection to Silva to get him in the shirt, the fact is we signed him and he’s a very good player. This fanbase has to moan about absolutely everything.
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Literally no one is moaning about signing Richarlison. What are you going on about?
 

ParisToffee said:
Marcel Brands when he arrived in 2018 said that it was a long term project to get everything in place and it could be 4 or 5 years before all the benefits could have been seen! He took over us when we had over 40 players in 1st team squad and lets be honest, there was a lot of crap in it and all on serious money ;-( We had a squad with players of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva ;-(

He has brought in players like Digne, Gomes, Richarlison, Mina, Kean, Bernard, Gbamin and to lesser extent Iwobi and Delph !
He has send younger players like Holgate out on loan who has come back better and hopefully Kenny and Gibson will be the same :) Gibson stated the only reason he signed contract renewal was Brands gave him a clear idea of route into 1st team also and Kean was similar :)

Richarlison said it was both Silva and Brands who encouraged him to move here but Brands over all idea of the clubs vision that sold it to him :)

Brands has moved on a lot of players, even if on loans, that were never suited to us and on crazy wages ;-( These were unhappy players too and better away from the club !

We as fans don't think about our club like a business or economic entity which it is in the modern world :-( The papers said we were after Zaha last summer for 90 million or whatever but because Iwobi was signed his crap etc :-( His been average admittedly but Zaha could have been same as Silva was an average Manager ;-( Now , we have Ancelloti, who is a proper TOP class Manager , and can and will work well with Brands ;-) Brand haters said he should have got CB? He had a couple in Italy lined up, Silva wanted Zouma so when Chelsea got banned we were screwed over but Holgate has become key player this year so sorry he did'nt leave us short ;-) Midfield, We signed Gomes fulltime, Gbamin and Delph to cover Gana leaving which was going to happen anyway but who could fore see 2 of the 3 getting long term injuries? but we also have Schneiderlin, Davis there too so sorry no need to buy even more midfielders until others shifted out ;-) Again we signed Kean, one of the worlds biggest potential stars but no its not enough ;-( We were playing with 1 up top and had DCL, Tosun and Naisse on books but no we need to sign experienced players like Danny bloody Ings by some on here for 35 million and 150,000 a week salary :-(

Brands job is to ensure getting vale for money and increase commercial value of playing staff :) Again this summer, we ll have 8 more off salaries ;-) Garbutt, on 35 grand a week and we were struggling to get him a loan in league 1 :-( among them

Football has changed and not like it was 30 or 40 years ago and Everton when Premiership started did'nt adapt so are playing catch up to everyone else ;-( We are getting our new stadium now, have players with huge followings and getting media attention in countries where we never did before so look at positives too rather than always try to be negative about the people actually tryng to do something for club :)
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Well said, we all have our own opinions and I’m sure some will agree and some will strongly disagree. I think we should of got a CB in 110% and never even considered iwobi, as well forgetting zaha after his price tag went over £35m but there my opinions, on a overall brands is doing ok but I think myself and a lot of people find it confusing is to what he does exactly and why we have a DOF when we have such a good manager. Surely the new manager would chose if he wants to work with one and who it’s going to be?
 
killenefc said:
“But but but he was a Silva signing”

Who cares. We signed him and he’s decent, let’s not moan shall we?
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But no one is moaning. You’re making an issue that isn’t there.

The discussion is regarding if Marcel Brands has been good enough in his role. Our league form and current position would suggest that he hasn’t.
 
ParisToffee said:
Marcel Brands when he arrived in 2018 said that it was a long term project to get everything in place and it could be 4 or 5 years before all the benefits could have been seen! He took over us when we had over 40 players in 1st team squad and lets be honest, there was a lot of crap in it and all on serious money ;-( We had a squad with players of Moyes, Martinez, Koeman, Allardyce and Silva ;-(

He has brought in players like Digne, Gomes, Richarlison, Mina, Kean, Bernard, Gbamin and to lesser extent Iwobi and Delph !
He has send younger players like Holgate out on loan who has come back better and hopefully Kenny and Gibson will be the same :) Gibson stated the only reason he signed contract renewal was Brands gave him a clear idea of route into 1st team also and Kean was similar :)

Richarlison said it was both Silva and Brands who encouraged him to move here but Brands over all idea of the clubs vision that sold it to him :)

Brands has moved on a lot of players, even if on loans, that were never suited to us and on crazy wages ;-( These were unhappy players too and better away from the club !

We as fans don't think about our club like a business or economic entity which it is in the modern world :-( The papers said we were after Zaha last summer for 90 million or whatever but because Iwobi was signed his crap etc :-( His been average admittedly but Zaha could have been same as Silva was an average Manager ;-( Now , we have Ancelloti, who is a proper TOP class Manager , and can and will work well with Brands ;-) Brand haters said he should have got CB? He had a couple in Italy lined up, Silva wanted Zouma so when Chelsea got banned we were screwed over but Holgate has become key player this year so sorry he did'nt leave us short ;-) Midfield, We signed Gomes fulltime, Gbamin and Delph to cover Gana leaving which was going to happen anyway but who could fore see 2 of the 3 getting long term injuries? but we also have Schneiderlin, Davis there too so sorry no need to buy even more midfielders until others shifted out ;-) Again we signed Kean, one of the worlds biggest potential stars but no its not enough ;-( We were playing with 1 up top and had DCL, Tosun and Naisse on books but no we need to sign experienced players like Danny bloody Ings by some on here for 35 million and 150,000 a week salary :-(

Brands job is to ensure getting vale for money and increase commercial value of playing staff :) Again this summer, we ll have 8 more off salaries ;-) Garbutt, on 35 grand a week and we were struggling to get him a loan in league 1 :-( among them

Football has changed and not like it was 30 or 40 years ago and Everton when Premiership started did'nt adapt so are playing catch up to everyone else ;-( We are getting our new stadium now, have players with huge followings and getting media attention in countries where we never did before so look at positives too rather than always try to be negative about the people actually tryng to do something for club :)
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Well said,
 

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