Which is fine but I think you need to develop a sixth sense as to when to walk away and look somewhere else.
We stared far too long at Zouma when it was apparent he wasn't coming several weeks ago.
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Which is fine but I think you need to develop a sixth sense as to when to walk away and look somewhere else.
We stared far too long at Zouma when it was apparent he wasn't coming several weeks ago.
hallamblue
Player Valuation: £40m
I think it just reflects how difficult it is to buy players from other Premier League Clubs. I think it's best avoided to be honest, as the TV money means the clubs are under no pressure to sell. Buying players from PL clubs that have just been relegated, or where 1 player is an absolute standout (I suppose Zaha might come into that category) maybe worth the hassle, but other than that I would look abroad, or to our youth system.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
completely of topic, but this is why I will never get our country. Rap in America came from an entire section of their population being well and truly screwed over (the projects and being fed drugs). In the UK, these little scrotes have engineered their environment to fit their little fantasy of being Billy big bollocks and glorifying what most African Americans are desperate to escape.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Good points. And they underline just how much Brands has to learn about his job, this club and the league he's operating in.
Disgruntledgoat
Player Valuation: £50m
I'll wait and see how we look on the field after 10 games or so when we can start to see what the new players bring to the team. What's the point of starting the season off already believing everything is terrible?
Berenger
Player Valuation: £8m
Yeah I was referring to the whole chain.
Agree it's not about 'luck'. But there is a logical economic outcome of a club taking a careful, prudent approach and it's often overlooked by fans: a club prepares as well as it can but the market wasn't right. That is, the selling club's valuation is above the buying club's valuation so no trade happens for a given level of quality. That is a defining feature of the market for centre halves this summer.
Without knowing the ins and outs of transfer business everything is an assumption. We may have been trying to negotiate other deals which didn’t come to fruition, we may not have.
What I do know is Steve Walsh massively overpaid on UK trash and we’re still trying to repair the damage now.
I’m thankful Brands refused to pay £100m+ (Probably close to £175m with wages) on 2 slightly better than average premier league players
I don't believe everything is terrible (although even if I did i'm not sure what difference it would make to our results?). I'm just commenting on an Everton forum about our squad and transfer dealings. I'm perfectly happy to read people's thoughts on why the summer has been a positive. I agree with some of them, and some people have said things that I wouldn't have considered, and made me change my viewpoint on things.
What I don't like is the blind optimists, who shout down any criticism and say everything is wonderful, and anything that went wrong was completely out of our control, and will probably turn out for the best anyway. They're every bit as bad as the people saying everything is awful and we'll be lucky to finish 15th and everyone involved in the club is a disgrace. I think i'm seeing it in a fairly balanced way, I believe the signing of Kean is a massive positive, I was one of the few who initially said Delph would be a good signing (although I have noticed that a lot of people who laughed at the idea of Brands signing him are now saying he's a great signing, which kind of sums up my point) and i'm excited to see what Gbamin can bring. I think the lack of a centre half is a big problem, and i'm not sure we quite solved our problems in an attacking sense. The window was Ok, but i'm not sure we came out of it any stronger than we went in, which is disappointing.
chrismpw
Player Valuation: £70m
Oh god .... not that. Anything but falling into that snare again.
Disgruntledgoat
Player Valuation: £50m
It was more a general question. But apologies if it felt pointed.
As one of the ones who changed my opinion on Delph... My initial reaction is the emotional one of taking a player who doesn't play a lot in a top team who's knocking on 30. Having thought about it and watched more of him with my Everton head on over a few days, I had a more sober analysis of what he offered to the team.
I do believe we're stronger in every area except center back than we were going into the window, I'm happy enough to cross my fingers on that position until January and hope we bring in reinforcements then. I'm happy we didn't run around throwing money at the wrong solutions eg Rojo on loan would have done me fine, a two year deal not so much.
Yes, I understand that and it's a very fair point.
I don't think Brands is a failure or a fraud or whatever. But I also don't think he's the messiah, and it concerns me that we're going to go down the route of blindly believing everything he does is great and anyone who questions things is some sort of traitor. I'm not attempting to convince people Brands is rubbish, but I am kind of railing against the idea of chalking our successes down as masterstrokes and our failures down as outside of his control, just because it annoys me.
Good posts Jimmy. You give clear reasoning to your thoughts and intelligently point out that many of the signings may prove good or could prove poor. And that existing players may improve or go backwards,
To give any criticism to the team or management (unless we have just lost 2 games 3-0) on this forum is seen as some sort of heresay.
Stuff like `right its time Holgate stepped up, he is first change at centre half'. `Hes never done anything wrong, still improving'.
This is horrifyingly naive stuff. The lad was bang average in the championship last year (thats why no one at that level wanted to pay a few million for him) and was exposed massively at prem level the year before.
Looks like Silva is downbeat at the press conference today. Thats all you need to know, He knows if Gbamin isnt another Gueye our centre defence will be smashed to bits by the top 10 teams and we will lose points against the bottom 10 and he will probably lose his job.
havrey0123
Player Valuation: £25m
You mean like sigurdson, Walcott, tosun Ramirez, niasse, schneiderlin, bolasie, klassen, mina, Williams, Shani tarashaj ( oh yeah).
You mean like those players
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