2020/21 Marcel Brands

[Paul Rideout]

Brands signs:
Godfrey +1
Iwobi -1
King -1
Kean +1 good business but doesn't want to play for us
Gbamin -1
Delph -1
Doucoure +1

Total: -1 too much time show him the door
Thief wage stealing vultures

Iwobi + Kean is enough for me really


Let's be real without Ancelotti James and Allan wouldn't have signed

You’ve left a few out.

 

[davek]

He's been a disaster. In any measure you care to use, he's been a disaster: overhaul of the academy; continuity of managerial (type) appointments; continuity of playing style; selling players; buying players for good value.

A mid-table team he inherited; he's delivered a mid-table team in his first two seasons. Spending the kind of cash he's spent, that's just not on. To reward him with an extension is at the very least bizarre; at worst an insult to Evertonians. It's basically telling us all and the outside world it's the plan to stay a mid-table team.

No matter what the arse-licking Everton journalists asigned to the club say in the Echo or Athletic, it is NOT a coup to retain Brands, it's organisational failure.

 

[Naylor56]

Pickford

Holgate - Godfrey - Keane - digne

Allan -Doucoure

Iwobi - Rodriguez - Richarlison

DCL

 

[Paul Rideout]

He's been a disaster. In any measure you care to use, he's been a disaster: overhaul of the academy; continuity of managerial (type) appointments; continuity of playing style; selling players; buying players for good value.

A mid-table team he inherited; he's delivered a mid-table team in his first two seasons. Spending the kind of cash he's spent, that's just not on. To reward him with an extension is at the very least bizarre; at worst an insult to Evertonians. It's basically telling us all and the outside world it's the plan to stay a mid-table team.

No matter what the arse-licking Everton journalists asigned to the club say in the Echo or Athletic, it is NOT a coup to retain Brands, it's organisational failure.

DaveK in Marcel Brands criticism shocker.

It’s almost like you don’t like the role itself.

 

[grandjoeblue]

Really struggle to see how anyone thinks hes done a brilliant job. At best hes done alright, the squads at a similar level to when he came in.

 

[davek]

DaveK in Marcel Brands criticism shocker.

It’s almost like you don’t like the role itself.

Defend his time here....

 

[Paul Rideout]

Defend his time here....

I’ve seen how your pattern of discussion goes mate. Anything good gets attributed to the manager and anything bad to Brands. I’m all set not going on that complete twaddle of a Merry-go-round you pull out every few weeks.

And no, this doesn’t mean I can’t point out the good and bad aspects of brands, it means I’ve seen your mental gymnastics of reason devoid assumptions you pass off as facts, and I’m not going down that culdesac to bang my head against a brick wall as so many others do.

 

[davek]

I’ve seen how your pattern of discussion goes mate. Anything good gets attributed to the manager and anything bad to Brands. I’m all set not going on that complete twaddle of a Merry-go-round you pull out every few weeks.

And no, this doesn’t mean I can’t point out the good and bad aspects of brands, it means I’ve seen your mental gymnastics of reason devoid assumptions you pass off as facts, and I’m not going down that culdesac to bang my head against a brick wall as so many others do.

Oh right, so you cant defend him then.

Thanks.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Oh right, so you cant defend him then.

Thanks.

You’ve just proved my point. Ta.

 

[TheSecondComing]

I am excited what type of football he’s going to implement in the Academy.... as I can’t see anything that suggests the first 11 plays football

 

[TheSecondComing]

We are absolutely knackered if we are skint again this summer as we need to spending around £150 Million to fix it

 

[Lanolin]

Except that assumes performance in a vacuum. It’s possible for us to have improved and our league position not because other teams have improved, too. This season is incredibly competitive, at least from 2nd in the league down.

It's the same thing really. His job has to be to improve us relative to our rivals. If he doesn't do that he isn't really improving us at all.

 

[Nymzee]

Really struggle to see how anyone thinks hes done a brilliant job. At best hes done alright, the squads at a similar level to when he came in.

Are you sure? That's some mighty fine amnesia you've got going there.

2017/18 Squad

GK: Pickford, Robles, Stek
CB: Keane, Mangala, Fat Ash, Holgate, Jags
LB: Baines
RB: Coleman, Martina
CM: Schneids, Gana, Barry, Davies, McCarthy, Klaassen, Soggy, Vlasic
LM: Bolasie, Lookman
RM: Walcott, Lennon, Mirallas
ST: DCL, Niasse, Tosun, Sandro, Rooney

2020/21 Squad

GK: Pickford, Olsen, Virginia
CB: Keane, Mina, Holgate, Godfrey
LB: Digne, Nkounkou
RB: Coleman
CM: Davies, Allan, Doucoure, JPG, Gomes, Delph, Soggy
LM: Richarlison, Bernard
RM: Rodriguez, Iwobi
ST: DCL, King

 

[Saint Domingo]

Are you sure? That's some mighty fine amnesia you've got going there.

2017/18 Squad

GK: Pickford, Robles, Stek
CB: Keane, Mangala, Fat Ash, Holgate, Jags
LB: Baines
RB: Coleman, Martina
CM: Schneids, Gana, Barry, Davies, McCarthy, Klaassen, Soggy, Vlasic
LM: Bolasie, Lookman
RM: Walcott, Lennon, Mirallas
ST: DCL, Niasse, Tosun, Sandro, Rooney

2020/21 Squad

GK: Pickford, Olsen, Virginia
CB: Keane, Mina, Holgate, Godfrey
LB: Digne, Nkounkou
RB: Coleman
CM: Davies, Allan, Doucoure, JPG, Gomes, Delph, Soggy
LM: Richarlison, Bernard
RM: Rodriguez, Iwobi
ST: DCL, King

I think some people would rather have Allardyce managing that 17/18 squad than Ancelotti managing this one. Any who looks at that 17/18 squad and thinks that we didn’t need a long painful turnaround job is not in reality unfortunately. That for me was one of our worst squads in our premier league history but the 8th place finish has disguised that now so people will cry that there’s been no progress. That Arsenal game when Aubemayang scored about three offside goals was honestly one of the lowest points I’ve ever felt about us as a premier league side. I thought we were the worst side int he division at that time with no clue how to play football.

 

[Tubey]

Are you sure? That's some mighty fine amnesia you've got going there.

2017/18 Squad

GK: Pickford, Robles, Stek
CB: Keane, Mangala, Fat Ash, Holgate, Jags
LB: Baines
RB: Coleman, Martina
CM: Schneids, Gana, Barry, Davies, McCarthy, Klaassen, Soggy, Vlasic
LM: Bolasie, Lookman
RM: Walcott, Lennon, Mirallas
ST: DCL, Niasse, Tosun, Sandro, Rooney

2020/21 Squad

GK: Pickford, Olsen, Virginia
CB: Keane, Mina, Holgate, Godfrey
LB: Digne, Nkounkou
RB: Coleman
CM: Davies, Allan, Doucoure, JPG, Gomes, Delph, Soggy
LM: Richarlison, Bernard
RM: Rodriguez, Iwobi
ST: DCL, King

To be fair, he did say "similar level".

On paper we have a vastly superior team now, but it isn't showing to reality - and it's just so bloody slow.