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Marco Silva

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I'm sure big sam will shore you up abit mate
Haha! You really don’t know much about the pattern in which we hire managers if you think we’d ever go for Big Sam. I’m also not sure I’d be being sarcastic about him whilst he’s still sniffing around you. I’d say he’s far more likely to be Everton manager than Watford manager at this point in time!
 
And it’s been said on here that Silva bases his team around a solid defence and isn’t really that attacking. You saw our ‘solid’ defence at close quarters just over a week ago. Take it from a WFC season ticket-holder - so far, in his 11 games, he is attacking and we play in a ‘we’ll just have to score more than you’ manner. It isn’t really his fault as our squad is filled with far better attackers than it is defenders. But I can assure you, our team is not built on a solid defence and that isn’t Silva’s strong point at present.
To be honest .mate I don't want him, at this moment in time we need to steady the ship, not take a gamble , he might turn out to be a great manager but it's not the right time for us to be taking a punt on that.
 
To be honest .mate I don't want him, at this moment in time we need to steady the ship, not take a gamble , he might turn out to be a great manager but it's not the right time for us to be taking a punt on that.

I think any manager we appoint now, particularly from any of the mentioned names so far will be a gamble.

Rhino - massive gamble, Silva - gamble, Dyche - uninspiring gamble, Tuchel - never managed in the prem - gamble.

The one that is least of a gamble in all of them would probably be Fattus Sammus, which is not a great predicament to be in.
 
I think any manager we appoint now, particularly from any of the mentioned names so far will be a gamble.

Rhino - massive gamble, Silva - gamble, Dyche - uninspiring gamble, Tuchel - never managed in the prem - gamble.

The one that is least of a gamble in all of them would probably be Fattus Sammus, which is not a great predicament to be in.
Fat Sam has said he isn't interested anymore, were getting jibbed by the ugly ones now , it's not getting handled very well by us at all.
Not up on European footy but surely there are a few out there a bit more enspiring than this crop?
 
And it’s been said on here that Silva bases his team around a solid defence and isn’t really that attacking. You saw our ‘solid’ defence at close quarters just over a week ago. Take it from a WFC season ticket-holder - so far, in his 11 games, he is attacking and we play in a ‘we’ll just have to score more than you’ manner. It isn’t really his fault as our squad is filled with far better attackers than it is defenders. But I can assure you, our team is not built on a solid defence and that isn’t Silva’s strong point at present.

totally unrelated, but how much did that richarlison kid cost you? looks boss him from when I've seen him... how good is he?
 

Fat Sam has said he isn't interested anymore, were getting jibbed by the ugly ones now , it's not getting handled very well by us at all.
Not up on European footy but surely there are a few out there a bit more enspiring than this crop?

Inspiring :p

As you say though, not managed in the prem is still a gamble. Which actually would make Silva look less of a gamble.

We are clearly still run by amateurs, the Joyce article yesterday outed them as bumbling along without a clear plan. Absolutely pathetic, should have kept Koeman until they had a replacement lined up.
 
I said it a couple of days ago that this had massive mis-management written all over it by our board but little did I know it was this bad. Three weeks to approach Watford for Silva is ridiculous, and if anybody says they had to go through the process they need to give their head a wobble. Lots of talk that the boardroom couldn't agree on who to approach, but surely it all-comes down to our majority shareholder to make the decision as I'm pretty sure it would have been him that decided to sack Koeman as we all know that kenwright likes keeping managers in place as long as possible. This should have been done within 24hrs of Koeman leaving. Too much indecision, too much dithering has left us looking like the joke of an outfit we are at board level. When Silva decides to not rock the boat and stay with Watford who does that leave? Nothing as far as I can see that inspires me to think we have anything that resembles the long term plan alluded to by the board. One word "Gutted"!!!!!
 
totally unrelated, but how much did that richarlison kid cost you? looks boss him from when I've seen him... how good is he?
£13m. Probably shouldn’t draw your attention to this but he was on the verge of going to Ajax until a personal phonecall from Silva changed his mind (both speaking Portuguese). It’s not unfair to say he’s destined for the very top. I’m extremely realistic being a Watford fan but I’m deadly serious when I say we’ll have him 2 years max, and with the way fee’s are going at present and if he keeps going the way he’s going, he’ll be going to a City/Real/Barca for £80m+. He’s that good. It’s fair to say he’s the biggest commodity we own at the minute (including Silva) and with our owners being as astute as they are (they found Alexis Sanchez/Handanovic/Benatia etc) he’s basically unsellable this season or next unless it’s silly money. I mean very silly that only a handful of clubs could afford.
 
Inspiring :p

As you say though, not managed in the prem is still a gamble. Which actually would make Silva look less of a gamble.

We are clearly still run by amateurs, the Joyce article yesterday outed them as bumbling along without a clear plan. Absolutely pathetic, should have kept Koeman until they had a replacement lined up.
I don't really agree.

It's easy to blame the board but it's not a straightforward situation really. It's fair to say that the idea of sacking Koeman just 9 games into the league season would not have seemed even remotely likely just 2 months before it happened. Unfortunately things went very bad very quickly, and the European games meant that while the period of time was short, the number of games in the bad run was actually pretty large. With this in mind, it's not exactly surprising that the board didn't have a ready made replacement lined up. It's also worth noting that he managerial market is one that changes constantly, so your contingency plan hinges on what other clubs do and what decisions other managers make.

I said yesterday, if we fail to get Silva then this situation starts to look a bit farcical, but if we do get him, what exactly has gone wrong? It was clear from day one that Unsworth would be in charge until the international break, and if we bring in Moshiri's first choice during that break, it would seem like a job well done in all fairness.
 
Fat Sam has said he isn't interested anymore, were getting jibbed by the ugly ones now , it's not getting handled very well by us at all.
Not up on European footy but surely there are a few out there a bit more enspiring than this crop?
Ostersunds are topping their group in Europe, which contains Athletic Bilbao and Hertha Berlin. Their manager took them over when they were in the 4th tier and got them promoted to the top division in Sweden for the first time and won the Swedish Cup last year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Potter
 

Fat Sam has said he isn't interested anymore, were getting jibbed by the ugly ones now , it's not getting handled very well by us at all.
Not up on European footy but surely there are a few out there a bit more enspiring than this crop?

Allardyce would still be interested - if the money is right. He doesn't really want a long-term job...just the guaranteed pay-off if he is replaced next summer by someone more glamorous.
 
I don't really agree.

It's easy to blame the board but it's not a straightforward situation really. It's fair to say that the idea of sacking Koeman just 9 games into the league season would not have seemed even remotely likely just 2 months before it happened. Unfortunately things went very bad very quickly, and the European games meant that while the period of time was short, the number of games in the bad run was actually pretty large. With this in mind, it's not exactly surprising that the board didn't have a ready made replacement lined up. It's also worth noting that he managerial market is one that changes constantly, so your contingency plan hinges on what other clubs do and what decisions other managers make.

I said yesterday, if we fail to get Silva then this situation starts to look a bit farcical, but if we do get him, what exactly has gone wrong? It was clear from day one that Unsworth would be in charge until the international break, and if we bring in Moshiri's first choice during that break, it would seem like a job well done in all fairness.

So, going off that I would say getting rid of Koeman was pretty much knee-jerk stuff from the board, wouldn't you? Unless there was stuff going on behind the scenes which we are not aware of possibly.

Also, the international break is now really over, we have a game Saturday. If Silva was the no 1 target, which is becoming more apparent that he wasn't, then why wait until now?
 
So, going off that I would say getting rid of Koeman was pretty much knee-jerk stuff from the board, wouldn't you? Unless there was stuff going on behind the scenes which we are not aware of possibly.

Also, the international break is now really over, we have a game Saturday. If Silva was the no 1 target, which is becoming more apparent that he wasn't, then why wait until now?
Koeman had lost it. We don’t know how many managers we’ve talked to. I’m pretty sure that we’ve been talking to Watford for a while and they won’t accept the cash. Don’t believe the press and certainly not fat sam
 
So, going off that I would say getting rid of Koeman was pretty much knee-jerk stuff from the board, wouldn't you? Unless there was stuff going on behind the scenes which we are not aware of possibly.

Also, the international break is now really over, we have a game Saturday. If Silva was the no 1 target, which is becoming more apparent that he wasn't, then why wait until now?
Not at all no. Things had gone wrong under Koeman and we were showing no signs of coming out of the slump, so sacking him made sense. We could have just appointed Allardyce or probably Dyche within a couple of days but would that have been the right decision? Not for me. As you say, Silva seems to be the preferred choice and may have been all along. Maybe we've been in negotiations with Watford for a while and have used other names as a bargaining tool. Maybe they've approached a higher profile name and been turned down, and had to move on to another target.

As far as i'm concerned, getting the man the board want (realistically) would be the sign of a well thought out, patient search. If that meant waiting a week longer than we would have done if they just settled for the most readily available applicant, I would have absolutely no problem at all. I should reiterate though, that if Silva now doesn't come, I completely agree that we've made a mess of it.
 
Watford have lost three in a row.

Two of those defeats have came after being in a winning position, one of which was in the bottom three at the time (that would be us)......the other was home to Stoke.

If this run continues for another month then they themselves will be in the thick of the relegation battle.

Given the rate Watford’s owner goes through managers, the guy will probably be fired at that stage and we will not have to pay them any compo :dance:

Of course, whether or not such a fellow would still seem so attractive a target at that stage is quite another matter :blush:
 

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