MikeH72
Player Valuation: £100m
Spurs are a Champions League team and we are mid-table dross.
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Spurs are a Champions League team and we are mid-table dross.
Thomasc
Formerly known as By God I'm Blue
He’s here til summer if we win again this weekend as it distances us a bit from the bottom 3. A disastrous December though could easily see us right back down there and in the bottom 5 at the end of the month.
let’s see if they can pull anything out if the bag in the December fixtures.
let’s see if they can pull anything out if the bag in the December fixtures.
18 months.
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
Thank god...
APN_EFC
Player Valuation: £25m
I really want to like Silva, Moshiri and Brands. I hate being negative towards them, but I'm finding it hard to support his appointment as an ambitious one compared to other clubs.
Leave aside the reds, Man U, Arsenal traditionally big clubs, and Man City, Chelsea who were transformed by Money. It's fair to compare ourselves now to Leicester, Tottenham, even teams like Leipzig, Valencia, to see how teams can get up into the same space as the 'big clubs' with a great appointment and a good system behind the scenes. I think in Martinez, Koeman and even Silva, we made decent, maybe underwhelming appointments but not terrible ones. What is showing up now, since 2013, is that we obviously don't have a well run set up behind the scenes, and I hope and pray that Brands is working on that. The idea should be that whoever comes in as coach, is running a team which is embodying a winning culture, and that football style, hard work, fitness, attitude are all taken care of by many coaches behind the scenes, and by an attitude in the club. I want to support big dunc and all the blues behind the scenes, but maybe they're not the winners and top professionals we need, to support a young ambitious coach like Silva.
Even if Silva is a mid-table mediocre appointment, it could be his big leap into the big time, if Everton also supports him.
Thinking we'd get someone like Mourinho is silly, clearly, unless he really wanted to play Football Manager and turn us into a CL club, but we could learn from bigger clubs like Dortmund, Atletico and Ajax to see how a system can support success when you don't have money
Maybe this is a post for the Brands page
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
Sooner people start realising this, the better
On one hand you're saying it's fair to compare ourselves to Spurs ,but on the other hand you're saying it's silly to think we could get someone like Mourinho, who's just gone to Spurs. So which is it?
I don't see the point in speculating about coaches and their professionalism or attitude, how can we ever know enough about that to pass comment? Leicester won the league with a set up including Steve Walsh and Craig Shakespeare in senior roles, they both came here and they both flopped. Pochettino was long held up as the perfectly example of what we needed, but now he's been sacked without winning a trophy and the media is rife with stories about how he was unprofessional, his methods were outdated, and he had 'lost the dressing room'. Pretty much the exact opposite of the way most outsiders have always viewed it.
APN_EFC
Player Valuation: £25m
Yeah, youre right, I'm not sure. I think what I mean is that only if Brands can convince a Mourinho-level manager that our system, ambition and plans are top notch, then we'll start attracting them. Spurs have a new stadium and a great infrastructure ( I think) . Otherwise I don't know how to get a really top coach, because the highest profile coach we've had in recent years was Koeman, but he didn't have a great track record before us, and everyone else is in the same mould of Moyes, relatively successful lower division or lower level (Silva) young coach or manager.
I don't know how to place the appointments of Royle, Walter Smith and Mike Walker, apart from laughing.
Who are realistic top managers we could get who are a step above the ones we've had since Moyes?
Spurs are going backwards....
Yeah I agree with you. I've said for a long time now that Moshiri/the board/the club, however you want to define it, just aren't really looking to make a massive splash. When he first came in Moshiri made it sound like that's what was going to happen, but nothing we've done since has suggested it's the case. That's not a criticism, i'm just trying to be realistic about where we're going and how long it will take. Whether it's Silva or somebody else, our best chance of becoming one of the elite is a manager who gets us punching above our weight, and a couple of genuine bargains and/or academy graduates who go on to be absolute stars. Buying a load of players in their mid 20s for £30m might see us sneak into the top 6 but it's not going to turn us into a top side any time soon. We need to work out exactly what we're trying to achieve and how we expect it to happen. I hope that Brands has already done that, but I have to say it's not particularly obvious to me if he has.
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
We really are not set-up at any level to convince an elite manager to consider us as a serious proposition.
The closest we got was with Koeman, and he has a big name, but has a patchy record as manager at best, as we found out to our cost.
The associated spending under Koeman would have been more suited to a better manager, but we cocked it up and missed the boat again.
Spurs achieved their elevation in status more organically and through consistently good decision-making, but we fall at that hurdle as well.
It goes without saying that our strategy and execution has to improve drastically but without an Usmanov-type injection of cash, which is hardly likely, then at least as far as future managers go, we are not going to be in a position to attract the Mourinhos of this world, whether we want such a manager or not.
I don't think Silva will be here this time next year but although we are by circumstance restricted in the type of manager we can get, it doesn't at all mean that we can't make the right choice from amongst the managers who will be available.
The closest we got was with Koeman, and he has a big name, but has a patchy record as manager at best, as we found out to our cost.
The associated spending under Koeman would have been more suited to a better manager, but we cocked it up and missed the boat again.
Spurs achieved their elevation in status more organically and through consistently good decision-making, but we fall at that hurdle as well.
It goes without saying that our strategy and execution has to improve drastically but without an Usmanov-type injection of cash, which is hardly likely, then at least as far as future managers go, we are not going to be in a position to attract the Mourinhos of this world, whether we want such a manager or not.
I don't think Silva will be here this time next year but although we are by circumstance restricted in the type of manager we can get, it doesn't at all mean that we can't make the right choice from amongst the managers who will be available.
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Igrok
Player Valuation: £20m
That’s right, still repairing this fax machine no one using anymore...
Big_Duncs_Fod
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Fax Machine? We're still using carrier Pigeons.
BernieH
Player Valuation: £35m
Duncan's trained them up lol
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