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Martinez new Belgium head coach

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lols. beat ingurland twice. while he still bottled the semifinal (against a superior team), at least he learned from his past. instead of going up 2-0 to collapse, he had the side go down 0-2 to Japan only to take it.
 

Martinez. Only slightly better than Gareth southgate.

Both managers got club teams relegated from the premier league.

Different standard of coaching internationally.
 
Kenshin said:
1) Martinez. Only slightly better than Gareth southgate.

2) Different standard of coaching internationally.
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Disagree on both counts, mate.

1) Martinez has a superior playing style (when it comes off). He's also won the FA Cup and reached semis of a few tournaments. We'll always have 72 points. It's pretty obvious England fluked their run to the semis, while Belgium knocked out Brazil quite convincingly (and that's a Brazil who looked far superior to the emotionally-chaotic side who got thrashed by Germany 4 years prior) and beat England twice without conceding.

That's a lot more than slightly better. Southgate has much to prove still.

2) Different yes, but I know you meant it to mean international coaching is an inferior standard to club coaching. It's not true in a technical-quality sense. It's a different discipline, but not inferior/superior. It's only inferior (i.e. less) in a workload/logistical sense. We have plenty of examples of high-end successful club coaches who failed when they tried their luck internationally: Capello for one. Trapattoni, Clemente, even Alex Ferguson.
 

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