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Mayor's Bramley Moore Dock Open Letter To Evertonians

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What/where is this?

The track/ground level is raised to the first concourse above the lower tier, I don't know how this would be done, but if it can be, the stadium can be built as a football stadium and the track is the add-on rather than the other way around... all good, no?

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Sorry if already mentioned, 28 pages is too much reading for me on a Friday night.


It is too much to read any old night of the week :pint2:
 
Sorry Dave,I completely forgot that Moshirir was involved in the Kings Dock bid.
He's not even involved in this one. He's standing back and letting the club leverage a huge debt onto itself and the officers of the club are the ones doing the heavy lifting between council and club. He's putting up no money, and if he has any stadium expertise it's not apparent.
 
Spot on Dave.
Always looking on the bright side.

There's nothing positive in accepting what you're given. Now is precisely the time for notice to be served on the club that they and the council can swing it with their running track idea. It'll inevitably affect the stadium build and completely kill the value of the shift to the docks.
 

They take up far too much space. Crowd would be 20-30 yards from the field. There's absolutely no way it can be incorporated without completely destroying the soul of the stadium.
 
What/where is this?

The track/ground level is raised to the first concourse above the lower tier, I don't know how this would be done, but if it can be, the stadium can be built as a football stadium and the track is the add-on rather than the other way around... all good, no?

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Sorry if already mentioned, 28 pages is too much reading for me on a Friday night.
Look at how flat that lower tier is. That is exactly what I'm fearing.
 
There's nothing positive in accepting what you're given. Now is precisely the time for notice to be served on the club that they and the council can swing it with their running track idea. It'll inevitably affect the stadium build and completely kill the value of the shift to the docks.
Davy Klaassen is a great signing though, isn't he?
 

If it's at the expense of the integrity of the stadium as an atmospheric and intimidating football ground?

It's going to be a football stadium first and foremost, not THE Olympic Park where I saw a game of football miles away from where I was sat not too long ago. If you think Goodison is always a bastion of fire and brimstone you are kidding yourself mate. My emotional answer is to your post is to say no, what on earth do you mean, of course not. But....the truth is

I've been at Goodison with crowds of 15,000 and below on too many occasions. It's cold and unforgiving, even in August. Watched crisp bags and plastic bags blown across the hallowed turf like some scene from a 60s Western. So, the romantic notion Goodison is always intimidating fortress has been burst by too many awful teams to make me sentimental. Yep, it can be a bear pit, you're right. Lost count of how many occasions I can hand on heart declare that in re net seasons. Night matches carry a premium on that count, but Norwich Reserves ran rings round us this year.

So if your first demand is atmosphere and intimidation, let the architect show us his vision first before dismissing any wider sporting usage. I haven't seen any plans yet but Meis has been a regular visitor to this City and is well versed in our history. The stadium doesn't build the atmosphere, it's the fans who go the game challenged by the opposition and their support for their club. Football isn't much different on the pitch but it has certainly changed off it. 12,000 at home in an ageing stadium doesn't intimidate many but a signature development in today's Premiership is certainly more appealing.

Just don't understand the opposition to something I haven't seen. Everton that.
 
It didn't fail because images were shown early on, it failed because the men you trust to get this BMD scheme through to completion ballsed up the finances.

Last I checked, Moshiri wasn't involved with Kings Dock. The other suspects were, of course, and they ballsed up the finances because they a) didn't have the acumen to secure it and b) moved too fast on the whole thing. No wonder it fell apart.
 
Look at how flat that lower tier is. That is exactly what I'm fearing.

The Lower Gwladys Street and the Paddock are as 'flat' as they come. I'm fearing something too steep, too steep means fans stand less and are further away from each other and from the pitch.

Don't forget our atmosphere has always created at the back of the stand not at the front. It's what is at the back of the stands that I will be looking to first.
 
The Lower Gwladys Street and the Paddock are as 'flat' as they come. I'm fearing something too steep, too steep means fans stand less and are further away from each other and from the pitch.

Don't forget our atmosphere has always created at the back of the stand not at the front. It's what is at the back of the stands that I will be looking to first.
It's more about the sound staying in the ground that I'm concerned about. The Emirates, for example, is really quiet even on the rare occasions when the gooners actually sing something. I'm certainly not an engineer but the gentle sloping stands and the giant open space over the pitch at that ground seems to swallow up the sound.
 

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