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McFadden Yesterday

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Bruce Wayne said:
Like I said, English fans (by and large) will defend a player if he puts effort in, regardless of if he's rubbish or not. Kilbane is widely liked despite being poop because he was an honest battler. Unsworth likewise.

We're less than 10 games into a long season, lets just relax a little and see where things go.
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alright bruce , ill have that , but his general demeanour is hardly endearing us towards him . has he not got an agent/brain ?? honest , hope he does it , tho very sceptical on the evidence thus far . nil satis nisi optimum , and all that . lcab :unsure:
 
I agree with you Ghost, we need to hang on for a good few months and see how it pans out then. 10 games in is a bit early to start judging new signings.

As for your other post about the goal kicks, I fully endorse your points here. Westy rarely ballooned a ball up field and Nev was the same preferring to give to the full backs (in those days we had full backs). I wonder if the instruction is to get the ball upfield right away for AJ, Yak and whoever to run after because we sure as hell have not got a forward who can compete in the air and lay off a headed pass.
 
Without wishing to draw unfair comparisons his primary job, in my eyes at least, is to score goals. Michael Owen doesn't run around much but if you give him chances he'll score you goals. If we're completely honest with ourselves much of our play this season would even make someone like Owen look second rate.

Now I havn't seen enough of Yakubu whilst he was at Portsmouth and Boro to know his precise style of play but we must surely assume that Moyes does and sees him as a good fit for how he sees the team developing over the medium to long term. It's hard to imagine that Moyes wants us playing as we have done recently so perhaps with time both what Moyes wants and what Yakubu needs will come together.
 
Robert Jarvis said:
I agree with you Ghost, we need to hang on for a good few months and see how it pans out then. 10 games in is a bit early to start judging new signings.

As for your other post about the goal kicks, I fully endorse your points here. Westy rarely ballooned a ball up field and Nev was the same preferring to give to the full backs (in those days we had full backs). I wonder if the instruction is to get the ball upfield right away for AJ, Yak and whoever to run after because we sure as hell have not got a forward who can compete in the air and lay off a headed pass.
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Wessels was doing a lot of short passes/throws in the game against Metalist and it didn't work very well because the players then proceeded to lose the ball. Howard generally always looks for a quick throw when he gets the ball but if you don't have wide players breaking forward the options are limited, especially if your central defenders/midfielders aren't really capable of building slowly from the back.
 

Namdrater said:
We bought Yakubu to score goals, and hes already scored two in about +-5 games. I'm quite pleased with that. Johnson didnt find himself in those two positions in the last how many games? Obviously I'm not attacking Johnson because I know he is class and performing a different role, but lets give the Yak a break.

Theres room for improvement, lets give the man some time!
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We should give him time i agree but it just looks like he isn,t trying maybe thats his way and it must have looked it to moysie cos he dropped him the other week.
I think the other problem is his price tag thats not his fault its the market place at the moment maybe we expect to much without realising last year he would have cost about 5 million.
I really hope he is a sucess here cos us toffee fans love our centre forewards
but for the game on thursday i would still pair faddy and aj because they are more settled here
 
Well I wouldn't play AJ for the reason being, he isn't scoring goals. But if its throw-ins you want, then AJ's your man. His ability to win throw-ins down the channels is second to only Alan Shearer.
 
GhostOfDixie said:
Well I wouldn't play AJ for the reason being, he isn't scoring goals. But if its throw-ins you want, then AJ's your man. His ability to win throw-ins down the channels is second to only Alan Shearer.
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AJ will be better suited on thursday cos we will have to work for whatever we get and if he wins us corners and we score from one job done.
I can,t see us creating too much and if there are not going to be many chances in their box aj will be a better bet just for his workrate
 
metalist are missing two centre backs arent they?

i hope that aj plays to expose the players that step in to cover them and use his experience and pace to either work an opening or get onto the shoulder and score himself.

i wonder if metalist will play 5-5-0
 

GhostOfDixie said:
Well I am sure he will put the work in, but I think we need to remember that it has taken McFadden long enough to settle in. I don't believe all that pony that he wasn't given a fair run. One game doesn't make a player, and he had to have been consistent in training. Moyes didn't think he was good enough for the side all the time, and that's why he never played him.

If he starts performing like Arteta, then fair enough. But the amount of times I saw him lose the ball cheaply far out weighed the great parts of his game.

Now obviously I would like to see all our players firing on all cylinders, but it gets my back up when people have already made there mind up about Yakubu. Even before he played a game. There was no excitement because we never got Fernandes, Yakubu kind of slipped in to the club with very little noise.

Then all the pundits were saying I don't know about him, doesn't seem to be a good player, yet he all these people who were saying this didn't have a better scoring record then him. So they can shut up, especially Sharpy (who was a hero of mine) he should take responsibility for his club and realise that fans are going to listen to what he says and go yes, Yakubu isn't a good player.

I remember Alan Kennedy defending Crouch when everyone else slagged him off, well Crouch has done well for Liverpool and England.

Then Beattie has quite possibly the worse season as a striker since Garry Birtles put on the Man U shirt. Again he can stop his moaning about being frozen out, he wasn't regular because he was out of shape and lacked cutting edge. Yet he was celebrated here like a [Poor language removed] legend.

Yakubu has already scored more goals then Beattie did last year and already we are berating Yakubu. Maybe we should back him more, give him encouragement. The boy is class and has proven it at every level. Maybe he is just finding it difficult to settle, maybe he doesn't like the ball hoofed to him, maybe he likes the ball to run onto?

So just like everyone defended Kilbane and Beattie I am going to defend Yakubu, even if I am doing it on my own.

Now with a partner in crime, thanks Bruce.
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Count me in as well Ghost, I didn't want him, he's here now, live with it because you don't pay that sort of money for a bench warmer(y)
 

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