Migrant Crisis

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

so. you are okay people come over here and bring their culture and sense of nationality, and stick to it?

I'm not ok with them coming over here. But I'd rather they called themselves Syrians or whatever than British, because it simply isn't true. The same would go for myself if I went to Oz.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Do you only read what you're told to? The Mujahadeen were created by the west for the sole purpose of drawing USSR into a Vietnam type conflict, costly and unwinnable. Not the other way round.

No one batted an eyelid when the Taliban took control subsequently, still funded via the CIA, nor when they started blowing up monuments ( only the Times ran a two pragraph piece that was never followed up), things that are suddenly an atrocity now, to suit the narrative.

Who's side are we on in Syria? Do you know? Do you think the wst knows itself? The answer is both, they funded both sides, created one in ISIS, and havent supported those at the sharp end against ISIS despite calls to...

What your opinion comes across as is the regurgitation of spoon fed propaganda with no contrary dialogue or information, which is patently wrong.

It is the choice between freedom fighters and terrorists, Irgun were freedom fighters, Hamas are terrorists, so we are told, so most believe, it's a tactic used for centuries to garner support for something in reality, and truthfully, they normally wouldn't

Oh aye? And who funds isis? You'll find it's mainly Saudi oil-backed wealth on a far greater scale than any prior Western involvement.

West did nothing militarily in Egypt - the muslim brotherhood took over & the region (Especially in regards to Israel) was destabilized more than what it was when mubarak was there.

Tunisia - the west did nothing militarily in the original 'arab spring' & now they've got a breeding ground for terrorism.

Syria - West has 'interfered' militarily on a minimal scale there, as opposed to the countries listed further below. Now their refugees are in Europe, NOT in the oil-rich arab states.

Libya - West intervened militarily in a bigger way than Syria, and now look at it since gaddafi's gone?!

Iraq - West invaded it. Saddam went and now look at who's running the place.

It's either a despot tyrant running the gaffes but keeping the region a lot more stable with very little, or no terrorist faction - and the muslims howl that we're not doing enough to help them; or when we do & the looney factions like isis fill the void then we're 'interfering' and 'it's all our fault' when muslims are killing indiscriminately - but killing fellow muslims as well.

Why are they allowed to have it both ways?

 

[Frank Gallagher]

yep. often because of their attitude towards the people where they live

I dont follow?

An expatriate is someone who permanently resides in a country thats not where they are originally from.

 

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

after you have blamed it on Muslims

Now now, let's not bring religion into this.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

seriously? have you travelled at all?

Lots actually. Lol

 

[oldblue]

I'm not ok with them coming over here. But I'd rather they called themselves Syrians or whatever than British, because it simply isn't true. The same would go for myself if I went to Oz.

so when do they become British?

 

[oldblue]

Lots actually. Lol

Southport doesn't count

 

[rascal]

What is America's role in this?

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Who cares what nation a person identifies with?

We are all people. They deserve the same protections and opportunities that we the 'indigenous' people of this island are granted.

 

[Fresh Prince of Belle Val]

so when do they become British?

Never. If a dog is born in a stable it doesn't make it a horse.

 

[Pienaar's gloves]

Southport doesn't count

Oi.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Southport doesn't count

I wouldnt dare venture there!

Ive been an expat in various different countries and cultures over the last 15 years.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

so when do they become British?

As soon as one has qualified for a british passport. Im not sure how long that actually takes.

 

[oldblue]

Oi.

sorry about that xenophobia. some of my best friends have been to Southport

 

[oldblue]

As soon as one has qualified for a british passport. Im not sure how long that actually takes.

Never. If a dog is born in a stable it doesn't make it a horse.

bit of disharmony here lads. sort your feelings out and get back. I have to go