Mistakes

[Bruce Wayne]

What makes you think they don't know how to design websites? Not saying they do or anything but it's very rare for any of us to be the very best at a particular thing. None of us know all there is to know

 

[Goat]

Squidward Tentacles is SpongeBob and Patrick's cranky neighbor. His species is ambiguous, as has been referred to as both a squid[4] and an octopus[5] by the series' creators. Squidward is bald with green skin, a large nose, and lives in an Easter Island head-like house located between SpongeBob's and Patrick's residences. He works as a cashier at the Krusty Krab, a job he despises. SpongeBob and Patrick consider Squidward their friend, but the feeling is not mutual; he is oftentimes bothered by their activities (because they are annoying and/or get in his way), and usually dislikes the two.[4] Squidward's hobbies are making artwork and playing the clarinet, though nobody around him considers him to be very good at either of these activities. Often depicted as a Narcissist, Squidward has a large collection of self portraits and is delusional about his talents, often displaying an unjustified air of superiority. His main rival is Squilliam Fancyson, his former band classmate and the richest squid in Bikini Bottom.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

there's more than 1 way to skin a cat.

i had a job that entailed programming/setting/operating a cnc milling machine, and if moving around the workshop, inserting a broom up your arsh so you could sweep as you went.

now the previous person to operate the m/c was the boss/owner. he expected me to do everything exactly as he did, which tbh was like learning all over again, as i would have to learn how he wrote programmes as opposed to doing it my way and getting the same finished product. until i did things exactly as he did, then he wasnt going to put me on the rate that was touted... when i'm sure you know what you are doing.
he thought he was all that but tbh i found him to be a pain and when i realised that others were still on their starting rate after a year i told him to stick it and do it himself. i'd been stuck in jobs that i didnt enjoy before and was adamant i wouldnt get into that rut again.

some places just have a shoite atmos, and i for one couldnt stand to be in an enviroment where you have to use the latest buzz-words in order to arsh-lick your way to the top.
do these kinds of people not realise that the office was a pishtake of people like them ?

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

those networking events must have been a whole load of 'touching base' etc etc though ghost, thats what has always put me off them tbh.
i should send along a mate who's arsh-licked his way up the ladder. maybe thats a good career for someone of that persuasion....attending networking events for the shy types who are a bit reserved like myself.

 

[atrottel]

Well, the job might or might not be for you (although it appears fairly early days to be judging it).

But it's only now that your job is designing and building websites. Before (despite what you might have thought) it wasn't that. It was selling your services designing and building websites.

So learn what you can from how they operate in that area where they are (apparently) more successful than you were. And that will stand you in good stead if you return to being self-employed. There are plenty of very good web designers and programmers and usability experts (metaphorically) starving in their garrets because they don't know how to sell their services.

 

[McBain]

Squidward Tentacles is SpongeBob and Patrick's cranky neighbor. His species is ambiguous, as has been referred to as both a squid[4] and an octopus[5] by the series' creators. Squidward is bald with green skin, a large nose, and lives in an Easter Island head-like house located between SpongeBob's and Patrick's residences. He works as a cashier at the Krusty Krab, a job he despises. SpongeBob and Patrick consider Squidward their friend, but the feeling is not mutual; he is oftentimes bothered by their activities (because they are annoying and/or get in his way), and usually dislikes the two.[4] Squidward's hobbies are making artwork and playing the clarinet, though nobody around him considers him to be very good at either of these activities. Often depicted as a Narcissist, Squidward has a large collection of self portraits and is delusional about his talents, often displaying an unjustified air of superiority. His main rival is Squilliam Fancyson, his former band classmate and the richest squid in Bikini Bottom.

Killing myself here.

I was thinking about becoming a Pornographer. Great hours, I can work from home...sort of...I get to meet interesting people and you get to work outdoors. Cant think of any other perks at the moment but Im sure there's some...

 

[bluebloodinmyveins]

What do you do?

I think he's a pimp

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Well, the job might or might not be for you (although it appears fairly early days to be judging it).

But it's only now that your job is designing and building websites. Before (despite what you might have thought) it wasn't that. It was selling your services designing and building websites.

So learn what you can from how they operate in that area where they are (apparently) more successful than you were. And that will stand you in good stead if you return to being self-employed. There are plenty of very good web designers and programmers and usability experts (metaphorically) starving in their garrets because they don't know how to sell their services.

Well I was a freelancer, they are a fully fledged agency - whom I may add I actually beat to a job not 6 months back. They seem to have financial backing and I don't.

I'm going to give it at least 6 months, clear the decks and then see where I am then.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

Well I was a freelancer, they are a fully fledged agency - whom I may add I actually beat to a job not 6 months back. They seem to have financial backing and I don't.

I'm going to give it at least 6 months, clear the decks and then see where I am then.

when you were freelancing, did you look into grants etc that were available ? they arent much but every bit counts.
also people can get grants to get websites, i dont think they have to be all singing all dancing affairs, but it's bread and butter work that keeps you ticking over.
i'm forever getting calls off people offering to build a site and get me good placings on google etc. which are a pain in the arsh tbh but i reckon if you did some of the bread and butter ones for people that you knew and could get recomendations for more then you can avoid the paid advertising. the government want every small business including self employed to be online, so every plasterer/plumber/locksmith/child minder etc etc can apply for the grant for the site (or could).
just a thought like, but i'm terrible for just sitting back waiting for the work, instead of out marketing myself so that i can save some on the advertising.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

when you were freelancing, did you look into grants etc that were available ? they arent much but every bit counts.
also people can get grants to get websites, i dont think they have to be all singing all dancing affairs, but it's bread and butter work that keeps you ticking over.
i'm forever getting calls off people offering to build a site and get me good placings on google etc. which are a pain in the arsh tbh but i reckon if you did some of the bread and butter ones for people that you knew and could get recomendations for more then you can avoid the paid advertising. the government want every small business including self employed to be online, so every plasterer/plumber/locksmith/child minder etc etc can apply for the grant for the site (or could).
just a thought like, but i'm terrible for just sitting back waiting for the work, instead of out marketing myself so that i can save some on the advertising.

I'm going to stick this out for a bit, but I am looking at starting up as an agency and not as a freelancer. So would probably need to find a business partner in the area who can sell websites.

I'm more of a designer/developer/code guy.

 

[Bundy]

Careers suck. Offices suck. I used to develop web sites, it wasnt bad but I hated dealing with stupid middle managers who thought they were all that. I got a cushy programming job that I'm going to ride for as long as it lasts. I dont really care that we use out of date technology and when I leave this place I will be so far behind I probably wont be able to get another job in the industry. Should have been a tradie, they get paid just as well.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

i couldnt believe what carpet fitters get over there. there was a 'come to oz' program and this carpet fitter on the gold coast was earning about 3 times what he did here, whereas most trades seemd about the same and some less.

 

[Bundy]

Yeh it sucks. The government says "study I.T. lots of opportunities blah blah", then they go and import a shed load of Indians to work in the I.T. industry. Mean while my brother in law who is 9 years younger than me is getting more than me for doing a trade as a carpenter, while I spend 20 grand and three years at university getting a degree.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

I reckon I may well have made a mistake in current vocational decision. How long can anyone stay in one place before they just have to move on?

Why don't you go contracting (Set up your own limited company) and that will give you the freedom and flexibility to move jobs/locations/companies at your will, taking short or longer term contracts as you see fit...

I've been doing it for 10 years and never regretted it

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Why don't you go contracting (Set up your own limited company) and that will give you the freedom and flexibility to move jobs/locations/companies at your will, taking short or longer term contracts as you see fit...

I've been doing it for 10 years and never regretted it

I have plans, just need to clear the decks, and wait for the economy to develop more.

It's all going to be ok.