Most important Everton game

[barneygumble]

Memories of winning stuff will never cease to exist. My uncle's a Utd fan and remembers them going down in 1974...that still didn't erase his memories of seeing Best, law and Charlton win stuff in the 1960s- and, in just 1 season, they were back in the top flight and finishing 3rd.

Exactly. Let me be clear. Trophies and success are what football is all about. It’s what we crave.

I’m not fortunate enough to have seen us lift a trophy, but being raised in a staunch blue family I’m familiar with the highs of Trebilock, ‘84, Rotterdam, League titles. I know they’re memories you can’t simply buy.

But the reason why this is the most important game in 50 years is because of the impact it’s going to have IF we were to go down.


All those memories fade for future generations, Goodison potentially seed it’d last top flight game, our finances could cripple us.

This isn’t Man Utd 1973, this is us now, with bad finances a gap to the top which has never been greater, so whilst I respect your comment it’s totally different.

Those memories you talk about, they disappear as we move through generations and what we deem as “success” changes.

Those cup wins, title wins are aided by being a top flight club. You won’t see another Rotterdam, a 10th title if we’re languishing in the lower leagues.

So yeah, we may not remember 94, 98, and hopefully 2022 going forward. But they doesn’t mean this isn’t the biggest game in our recent time.

I want to be sat there, in london on Sunday, toasting our fan base for what we’ve done this season. Then the focus is on fixing the club so this generation, and future generations can hopefully enjoy the successes other generations have.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Exactly. Let me be clear. Trophies and success are what football is all about. It’s what we crave.

I’m not fortunate enough to have seen us lift a trophy, but being raised in a staunch blue family I’m familiar with the highs of Trebilock, ‘84, Rotterdam, League titles. I know they’re memories you can’t simply buy.

But the reason why this is the most important game in 50 years is because of the impact it’s going to have IF we were to go down.

All those memories fade for future generations, Goodison potentially seed it’d last top flight game, our finances could cripple us.

This isn’t Man Utd 1973, this is us now, with bad finances a gap to the top which has never been greater, so whilst I respect your comment it’s totally different.

Those memories you talk about, they disappear as we move through generations and what we deem as “success” changes.

Those cup wins, title wins are aided by being a top flight club. You won’t see another Rotterdam, a 10th title if we’re languishing in the lower leagues.

So yeah, we may not remember 94, 98, and hopefully 2022 going forward. But they doesn’t mean this isn’t the biggest game in our recent time.

I want to be sat there, in london on Sunday, toasting our fan base for what we’ve done this season. Then the focus is on fixing the club so this generation, and future generations can hopefully enjoy the successes other generations have.

Good post. I can agree with most of it. Just to make my position clear, Everton for me, isn't about trophies, it's about seeing great / very good players. Memories are about moments and individual games (whether we won anything that year or not) sometime they go hand-in-hand (like Villa away 87) and some don't (like Blackburn away 92). Tonight's game, if we win, will live long in the memory, like Wimbledon and Coventry do (and Ipswich away 95).

 

[barneygumble]

Good post. I can agree with most of it. Just to make my position clear, Everton for me, isn't about trophies, it's about seeing great / very good players. Memories are about moments and individual games (whether we won anything that year or not) sometime they go hand-in-hand (like Villa away 87) and some don't (like Blackburn away 92). Tonight's game, if we win, will live long in the memory, like Wimbledon and Coventry do (and Ipswich away 95).

Think we all want the same, to a degree.

Got grandparents who remember Ball, Young and the rest, they wowed. But good players usually coincides with trophies, which is what the majority have said… what people savour for a lifetime.

I don’t want this to be the biggest game in decades, but sadly it is. Hopefully it’s the trigger for a turnaround and a shake up.

I can only envy yourselves for being at such big events and witnessing Everton sides be successful.

 

[BlueInNZ]

I was there mate. All i remember is keown coming off with a broken nose(i think) after a battle with wright and bright.
The rest of the day is a foggy memory though
Hope you didnt get the pa call ?

I was there too. Palace wasn't it ? (Long time ago and memory is crap these days). What I do remember is up until that day the general thinking of Keown was mixed. That day he got battered by their forwards, horrible stuff, and he took it all until the smashed nose. After that he was recognised as a proper blue.
Your turn tomorrow Keane.

 

[Mark Bisson]

Loved Keown when he played for us and remember that Palace game well as a kid. I am 43 now and was lucky enough to be at Wembley for the 95 Cup Final. Best day of my life along with the birth of my son.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

Think we all want the same, to a degree.

Got grandparents who remember Ball, Young and the rest, they wowed. But good players usually coincides with trophies, which is what the majority have said… what people savour for a lifetime.

I don’t want this to be the biggest game in decades, but sadly it is. Hopefully it’s the trigger for a turnaround and a shake up.

I can only envy yourselves for being at such big events and witnessing Everton sides be successful.

I was born in the 1970s, so my era really is the great 80s team- and seeing that great midfield in action was a treat- and one of the all-time great keepers and so many brilliants goals by Sharp and Sheedy. But seeing Andrei and Arteta at their best and the Baines/Pienaar combo was also worth the fee. And Dave Watson epitomised was it was to play for Everton in the 90s, and seeing his determination to keep going no matter what, was great too. Tonight could be a time for a hero, who we talk about in years to come.

 

[barneygumble]

I was born in the 1970s, so my era really is the great 80s team- and seeing that great midfield in action was a treat- and one of the all-time great keepers and so many brilliants goals by Sharp and Sheedy. But seeing Andrei and Arteta at their best and the Baines/Pienaar combo was also worth the fee. And Dave Watson epitomised was it was to play for Everton in the 90s, and seeing his determination to keep going no matter what, was great too. Tonight could be a time for a hero, who we talk about in years to come.

Cometh the hour… Cometh Horne, Cometh Farrelly… on that basis I’m expecting Tom Davies.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Dixieslaces]

Zenith data systems cup final.

Good Times

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

The much-maligned Michael Keane will score the winner!

 

[Dixieslaces]

The Game of Thrones.

Bill, Mosh, Uncle Uzzy, Benitez all vying for control.

Bill seeing them off.

You couldnt make it up, could ya!!!!

 

[Dixieslaces]

Exactly. Let me be clear. Trophies and success are what football is all about. It’s what we crave.

I’m not fortunate enough to have seen us lift a trophy, but being raised in a staunch blue family I’m familiar with the highs of Trebilock, ‘84, Rotterdam, League titles. I know they’re memories you can’t simply buy.

But the reason why this is the most important game in 50 years is because of the impact it’s going to have IF we were to go down.


All those memories fade for future generations, Goodison potentially seed it’d last top flight game, our finances could cripple us.

This isn’t Man Utd 1973, this is us now, with bad finances a gap to the top which has never been greater, so whilst I respect your comment it’s totally different.

Those memories you talk about, they disappear as we move through generations and what we deem as “success” changes.

Those cup wins, title wins are aided by being a top flight club. You won’t see another Rotterdam, a 10th title if we’re languishing in the lower leagues.

So yeah, we may not remember 94, 98, and hopefully 2022 going forward. But they doesn’t mean this isn’t the biggest game in our recent time.

I want to be sat there, in london on Sunday, toasting our fan base for what we’ve done this season. Then the focus is on fixing the club so this generation, and future generations can hopefully enjoy the successes other generations have.

Good post mate,

On Point

 

[4737carlin]

Biggest game for me, finals are great, but look at the last one we got too against Frank Lampards Chelsea, was that game bigger then tonight? For me no, and its not benefit of hindsight because we lost, even on the day nobody felt about it like we do now because losing that didnt ruin us like losing tonight potentially can do. The damage a relegation can do under curent financial circumstances with the ground and FFP eyes on us, go down this season and we really are in a long term mess.
Lose a cup final you just go again next season. Besides not many people are old enough to have seen us play in any other division

 

[bcblue1878]

It was important for me, it was the wife’s due date with our first born. I was waiting for my name to come over the p.a. all afternoon.

And did it?

P.S - Just seen your answer a few posts further on !

 

[Timak]

Strange debate. What are the most important days of your life?

Getting married, birth of your kids, or being born yourself and the day of your death.

Today is one of those where an HGV swerves out of control ahead of you on the M1, it could be one of the most important days of your life or a near miss you talk about in the pub.

 

[Buzz Lightroom]

The biggest reason I refuse to believe that tonight's game is our most important is mainly because we can potentially lose tonight and lose again on Sunday and still stay in the premier league. I'd say Brentford vs Leeds is probably a bigger game in Everton's history than either of the 2 games we have left to play as that's the one that determines whether we need any more points or not. Relegation is NEVER caused by a defeat right at the end of a season. Relegation comes from far too many defeats over the course of a 38 game season. Every single one of the 20 defeats we've had so far have been as important as the game tonight.
If we'd have beaten Leeds back in August we wouldn't be in this position now but who considers that game to have been important?
If we hadn't been battered at home to Watford we wouldn't be in this position now but who considers that game to have been important?
All 38 games of a league season are equally important. If the players were showing a fight to survive in every game throughout the season we might not be in the position we're in now.

If you want to point to a relegation match that is an important one in Everton's history then the game against Wimbledon in 1994 has to be far, far more important than tonight's. We went in to that one on the final day of the season in the relegation zone and absolutely having to win or we were going down. We're not in that position tonight. Relegation in 1994 would have been just as devastating for the club in 1994 as it would be in 2022. The reason some are saying tonight is more important is probably because they're either too young to remember 1994 or time has healed the significance of it.
I'd say the game in 1998 against Coventry is probably a close second in terms of important relegation games but we only needed a draw on that day thanks to a very dodgy decision at Bolton earlier in the season.