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Moyes Potential Replacement

Who do you want? - being realistic

  • Roberto Martinez

    Votes: 221 13.8%
  • Vitor Pereira

    Votes: 594 37.2%
  • Neil Lennon

    Votes: 40 2.5%
  • Di Matteo

    Votes: 58 3.6%
  • Slaven Bilic

    Votes: 73 4.6%
  • Michael Laudrup

    Votes: 410 25.7%
  • Malky Mackay

    Votes: 33 2.1%
  • From within the club

    Votes: 60 3.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 108 6.8%

  • Total voters
    1,597
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You've mentioned Weir an awful lot Dave, surely you've had a flutter on that at 40/1 to soften the blow if you are proved to be correct.
Well, I don't bet as a rule, but Weir has always looked value (33/1 last week and now you can still get him between 30/1 and 40/1). I wouldn't back it because it wouldn't feel right - and it wouldn't soften the blow in any way shape or form. Others, however, would be mad not to.
 
Wonder where Marcotti got this snippet of gossip from ?
Given that Davek has let it be known that Weir turned the job down.
Hmm the mind boggles,Information gleaned from posters on here perhaps ?
You've gotta laugh,who's going to report it next Brian Reade ?
No substance to either rumour I reckon.
I didn't say that at all. Not my info.
 
Marcotti ten minutes ago on Talksperm - understands "Stubbs & Weir" is the board's preferred option. Bill, you'll never get away with it lad, not all Evertonians are retards.


If that was the case then they'd of been appointed by now!. If we was keeping it in house it would all of been done and dusted sometime ago so there talking bollocks.
 


Vítor Pereira profile for people that dont no anything about him




Many in Portugal believe that virtually anyone who sits in FC Porto's dugout will achieve success. Vítor Pereira has become the latest man in that particular line.

Since Everton are still reportedly looking at the Portuguese coach to replace David Moyes, we may well face a Premier League with three of FC Porto's most successful coaches in José Mourinho, André Villas-Boas and Vítor Pereira - the sorcerer, the apprentice and the apprentice’s apprentice.

Background

Vítor Pereira's career as a footballer was rather modest, unlike his brilliant academic career. He got his degree in Physical Education from Porto's University - drafting an amazingly well-researched analysis of Barcelona's style of play to boot - as well as his coaching badges (where he was the second best student).

He cut his teeth as an assistant coach at several local clubs, and as coach of the FC Porto U18 team. After almost a decade acquiring experience in these posts, in August 2008, he was hired as head coach by Santa Clara, a club from the Azores that played in Portugal’s second tier.

In the two seasons he spent there, the team fared well and twice went close to obtaining promotion to the top flight.

When André Villas-Boas, still out to prove his mettle, was hired by FC Porto in 2010 to wrest back the title after a rare Benfica triumph, both the board and Villas-Boas himself thought it a good idea to bring in an assistant with great knowledge of the game and some more managerial experience (AVB had just half a season under his belt at Académica, at that moment).

The revelation


FC Porto's season under André Villas-Boas was a tremendous success, yielding four trophies - including the Portuguese League and the Europa League.

Furthermore, the Dragons, used to playing more reactively under former coach Jesualdo Ferreira, were now putting in some wonderful attacking displays to their fans' delight, including a 5-0 drubbing of Jorge Jesus' Benfica, a team that had Ramires, David Luiz and Fábio Coentrão - to name but a few - in their ranks.

While AVB's charm and ability to relate to the average (FC Porto) fan were all too obvious, Vítor Pereira's work in the shadows was already getting some well deserved recognition.

When asked in December 2010 which coaches had most impressed him, Pinto da Costa, FC Porto president, instantly mentioned the names of Leonardo Jardim (formerly of Olympiakos and current Sporting coach) and Vítor Pereira.

Many a reporter and fan were surprised, but Pinto da Costa would later prove that those were not empty words destined to boost the then assistant coach's morale.

Villas-Boas' sudden departure to Chelsea caused a commotion, leaving FC Porto in an unexpected power vacuum. Pinto da Costa, so reliable in turning problems into solutions, appointed Vítor Pereira on the very same day of André Villas-Boas' departure.

While on one hand, FC Porto did not want to look unprepared and allow that feeling to trickle down to players and fans alike, on the other hand, there was the belief that the club were on the right track and Pereira would be the right man to provide continuity.

The struggles

Vítor Pereira inherited a very good team - but a team whose players were now eager to leave.

Guarín, Álvaro Pereira, Falcao, Hulk, Rolando, Ruben Micael, and Fernando were all on record stating their will to leave for greener pastures, now that their inspirational leader had moved on. If there were any doubts the transition from no. 2 to head coach would be hard, they quickly disappeared.

Still, Pereira immediately made his impression on the team, further accentuating FC Porto's traits under AVB - high pressing, insistence on ball possession and forcing the opponent to relinquish control of the match.

In a fortunate coincidence, the first official match under the new coach was against Barcelona - Vítor Pereira's inspiration for several years - for the European Super Cup. Despite a 2-0 loss, the team's display was encouraging.

Strengths


Throughout the two seasons as FC Porto's head coach, Pereira proved he is his own man, bowing to no-one.

Armed with a well-defined attacking brand of football, he is relentless in the pursuit of the perfect movement and drills his players almost to exhaustion.

By repeating different variations of the same patterns, he is able to instil his players with a clear sense of what to do and when to do it - something that must please the Everton scouts.

Pereira's knowledge of the game is second to none and he does not like to leave things to chance. He has also proved capable of turning things around - both in the transfer window fallout and in psychological terms.

In his first season at Porto, he ended up losing Falcao near the end of the transfer deadline, a huge blow given the Colombian striker's importance within the team. Still, the coach managed to impose an attractive style of play, namely through Hulk and Monaco-bound James Rodríguez.

In his second season, he lost Hulk, Álvaro Pereira and Belluschi, among several others, and still devised a way for the team to get close to the ideal he aspires to.

Over the past two seasons, FC Porto found themselves trailing Benfica by as much as five and four points, respectively, with few matches left. While some may argue FC Porto should never have been in that position in the first place, the fact that they were able to overcome that deficit on both occasions, largely thanks to a do-or-die mentality, speaks volumes on behalf of Pereira's ability to lead his ship out of trouble.

All in all, the team clinched the Portuguese League twice and won two Portuguese Super Cups.

Weaknesses

FC Porto have suffered one - yes just ONE - defeat in the league over the three years that Vítor Pereira was involved with the senior squad. Yet, oddly, he is hardly a popular figure among the club’s fans.

For starters, he was never a famous player. On the other hand, he was never a much sought-after coach in the Mourinho or AVB mould.

But perhaps what sets Vítor Pereira apart from his two role models is the inability to capture the hearts and imagination of the fans - a la Villas-Boas - or to play the mind games Mourinho thrives on.

His public persona does not radiate that arrogance and assuredness both his predecessors boasted and he can sometimes cut a lonely, angry figure.

Also, despite being a master at setting his teams up to control the match and overpower the opposition, Pereira looks a bit lost when things go awry, from time to time.

On those particular occasions, he does not always convey the image of someone who is always ahead of the game - unlike Mourinho, for instance - nor does he seem to be able to inspire his players when bad things happen - unlike Villas-Boas (with the exception of Chelsea, of course).

Leadership

Despite his admiration for José Mourinho, Vítor Pereira will find it hard to garner the same dedication and adoration from players. Most players that served under him talk about a man that is easily approachable and implacable when it comes to defending his men.

The FC Porto link makes it almost obligatory for all of their coaches to resort to the siege mentality - something the Dragons have fostered for 30-odd years with huge success.

As a man nurtured within the bowels of FC Porto, he is more than qualified to use that strategy, as he so often did while leading his team over the past couple of seasons.

He has never been seen questioning the players' commitment, displays or decisions in public. Pereira is also known as a man fond of supporting his players when they go through rough patches, not casually casting them to the side.

Everton

If Pereira does end up landing the Everton job, he will be faced with a very different reality. First of all, he won't be fighting for the league title - which does not necessarily mean silverware will be beyond his reach.

Secondly, Everton's brand of football under David Moyes was most often a rather reactive one. The Scottish manager, now at the helm of Manchester United, preferred to sit deep and compact (usually in two banks of four), and capitalise on the opposition's mistakes.

In that respect, Vítor Pereira could not represent a more evident break from the past and may have his work cut out to win over a team that have been punching above their weight and achieving excellent results with a very distinct style of play.

And thirdly, he will inherit a team that is tailored according to very different goals. For instance, his preference for playing out from the back may prove hard to accomplish, either because of Tim Howard (the goalkeeper tends to have a pivotal role under Pereira) or heavy-touch players such as Sylvain Distin or John Heitinga.

In midfield, Darron Gibson, Marouane Fellaini and Steven Pienaar should provide quite an interesting setup, since their characteristics complement each other quite well (despite playing nominally on the wing, Pienaar always drifts inside) for the sort of midfield Pereira should be looking for.

Up front, Pereira will be hoping Kevin Mirallas stays put, so he can combine the Belgian's trickery on the right with Nikica Jelavic's goal-scoring threat and Victor Anichebe's imposing physical presence in a three-pronged (diversified) attack.

Signings



The last - although by no means least important - difference between FC Porto and Everton is the club's budget.

While FC Porto are no powerhouse by any definition, they still have the financial muscle to grab younger, less well-known gems such as James Rodríguez, Radamel Falcao or Lucho González, something Everton are incapable of doing.

Everton president Bill Kenwright will no doubt inform Vítor Pereira that the club's lofty goals must be achieved with a shoestring budget.

Therefore, it is highly unlikely that Pereira will be followed by a parade of countrymen or players from his former club, as is so often the case.

The only exception may well be Christian Atsu, a promising young Nigerian winger, who has plied his trade at FC Porto over the past few years and who has only one year left on his contract.

Despite having shone in the 2013 edition of the Africa Cup of Nations, he has not started that often at club level and has repeatedly stated his intention to play in the Premier League sooner than later.
 
There's been contact made between Everton and Pereira, that's been established mate. Multiple very good sources in the media, including the local media. Doesn't mean he'll be interviewed, or he's in for it, or whatever.
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There's no firm evidence - media speculation isn't evidence.
Ask yourself why the club did a full page preview of who Pereira was last week. They haven't done that for any other external candidate. This is the Echo, who are the club's propaganda tool.

The same paper that has outright told me that they won't cover any of the fans dismay about the new badge until the club officially announce it, as they don't want to alienate the club. I was specifically told this by an Echo journo.
When did the club do that? Is there a link?
 
Well, I don't bet as a rule, but Weir has always looked value (33/1 last week and now you can still get him between 30/1 and 40/1). I wouldn't back it because it wouldn't feel right - and it wouldn't soften the blow in any way shape or form. Others, however, would be mad not to.

Up to now I have never thought it possible the club would try to 'continue Moyes' legacy' by appointing someone with no managerial experience.

This 'he's an Evertonian/he knows the Everton way/lets have stability' is the biggest load of BS I have heard or read. People need to wake up - we've seen at multiple other clubs who made the mistake of appointing people with no experience and how that ended up with them going down, or at the very least, greatly declining.

We'll have more money to spend next season than we've ever had before, probably even more if we flog Fellaini. Not all of it will go to the bank. So the idea the new manager won't have money to spend is wrong too.

We are a top 6 club that needs to maintain that position. Appointing someone with no experience is complete professional suicide. Plus, it also uses up one of Kenwright's get out of jail cards if things go south without Moyes - the 'bring in an Evertonian' card. You don't use that up first. You try with an outsider first, then if that fails you bring in an Evertonian. If we're thinking of Kenwright as a political operator trying to save his skin, blowing his wad with the first successor to Moyes makes no sense.

Also, if Moyes takes Round, Woods and Lumsden with him to Utd, what actual continuity and stability will there be anyway? Most of the backroom staff will have gone. We might as well bring in an external candidate, as a new backroom staff will have to be constructed anyway.
 
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Tbh i dont want to read anything about Vitor unless we get him. Because if i do read more about him it'll just make me more annoyed when we don't get him.
 
There's no firm evidence - media speculation isn't evidence.
When did the club do that? Is there a link?

May 14th:

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/quiet-man-porto-vitor-pereira-3810572

Why the quiet man of Porto could make a big noise at Everton
14 May 2013 07:00 By Greg O'Keeffe

Understated 44-year-old Vitor Pereira replaced Andre Villas-Boas at Estadio de Dragao and is on brink of retaining the Portugese Liga title

HE HAS quietly crept up in the betting stakes to become David Moyes’ replacement, but the quiet man of Porto could be capable of making a big noise at Goodison.

Vitor Pereira is on the brink of retaining the Portuguese Liga title after a dramatic clash with Benfica on Saturday left his side in pole position to clinch the honours.

And with Pereira’s future at Estádio do Dragão, where he is out of contract in the summer, currently shrouded with uncertainty, the bookies reckon he could be a leading candidate to succeed Moyes at Goodison.

The 44-year-old has done well since replacing the Premier League bound Andre Villas Boas in charge at Porto in 2011, and while he shares some of the back-story which has made Villas Boas and Jose Mourinho before him a hit in the Premier League, Pereira does not share their outspoken traits.
In an interview yesterday he described himself as a man who prefers to focus on tactics, and leave the hogging of limelight to others.

“Portuguese people are strategic, with a huge work ethic” he said. “I do not have the talent to speak, in public, as finely as they do.

“Andre is very expressive, but I am different. I am a quiet person.

“I define myself differently: I am a tactical coach. For me, that part of the game is not so important.

“It is not part of my personality.”

Everton fans will care more about the footballing style of their next manager than whether he can produce the right soundbites, and when it comes to tactics Pereira says all the right things to whet their appetite.

“I like my teams to have total control, of the ball, of the game,” he said.

“I like to see my teams pressing very aggressively, very high up the pitch.

“The important thing is the balance between the attacking and defensive elements, but pressing high is the best way to defend. We have had the best defence in Portugal for the last two years.”

Pereira admits he has faced frustration at Porto, where he has had to sell some of the club’s stars, but has also had the opportunity to work with top talents like Joao Moutinho and Falcao.

“There are two parts to our job,” he said. “One is to find the young players before other clubs do.

“And then the other part is to help develop them. We look in countries where players tend to have creativity in their game, and then the coach’s job here is to teach them the tactics, the organisation, that you need to thrive in Europe. The players who move on take most of the credit, but for the coaches it is proof that we are doing our job.

“It is an honour for me to have worked with so many fantastic players. It is a point of pride to see them move on, to a better league, because it is a mark of my work.

“But the problem is that every year the best players are sold; we cannot build a team. Every year, we start again.”

If Pereira were asked to help Everton start again in the summer, the fluent English speaker would inherit at least one player he knows well.

Pereira tried to sign Belgian forward Kevin Mirallas from Olympiakos last summer before being beaten to the player’s signature by Moyes. After Mirallas shone again during Sunday’s win over West Ham, he clearly knows a talent when he sees one.
 

Internal = no compo

The 6th best team in the PL should be aiming a LOT higher than this. They should also have top managers banging on Kenwright's door to get the gig. If this ends like the 24/7 crap I will be f.....g livid.
 
That's not evidence the club are looking at him, it's media speculation on him in the wake of bookies odds tumbling on Pereira at hat time. I say again: there is NO evidence Everton are in for him. NONE.

There's no evidence we are in for anyone then. His guess is no more or less valid than yours.
 
Up to now I have never thought it possible the club would try to 'continue Moyes' legacy' by appointing someone with no managerial experience.

This 'he's an Evertonian/he knows the Everton way/lets have stability' is the biggest load of BS I have heard or read. People need to wake up - we've seen at multiple other clubs who made the mistake of appointing people with no experience and how that ended up with them going down, or at the very least, greatly declining.

We'll have more money to spend next season than we've ever had before, probably even more if we flog Fellaini. Not all of it will go to the bank. So the idea the new manager won't have money to spend is wrong too.

We are a top 6 club that needs to maintain that position. Appointing someone with no experience is complete professional suicide. Plus, it also uses up one of Kenwright's get out of jail cards if things go south without Moyes - the 'bring in an Evertonian' card. You don't use that up first. You try with an outsider first, then if that fails you bring in an Evertonian. If we're thinking of Kenwright as a political operator trying to save his skin, blowing his wad with the first successor to Moyes makes no sense.

Also, if Moyes takes Round, Woods and Lumsden with him to Utd, what actual continuity and stability will there be anyway? Most of the backroom staff will have gone. We might as well bring in an external candidate, as a new backroom staff will have to be constructed anyway.
Completely agree mate. It defies logic. But that's the type of people we have at the top of the tree, completely clueless cheapskates.
 

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