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Moyes Potential Replacement

Who do you want? - being realistic

  • Roberto Martinez

    Votes: 221 13.8%
  • Vitor Pereira

    Votes: 594 37.2%
  • Neil Lennon

    Votes: 40 2.5%
  • Di Matteo

    Votes: 58 3.6%
  • Slaven Bilic

    Votes: 73 4.6%
  • Michael Laudrup

    Votes: 410 25.7%
  • Malky Mackay

    Votes: 33 2.1%
  • From within the club

    Votes: 60 3.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 108 6.8%

  • Total voters
    1,597
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I've seen many articles written on this subject extolling the virtues of this guy and that guy but one man has not been mentioned at all, Dougie Freedman at Bolton. The similarities between him and Moyes are startling, his career has been outside the top flight in England, he is a Scot, each club he has been with have improved beyond recognition, he is young and ambitious. Moyes was one of the top students when he achieved his badge, Freedman is the same, his sides score goals regularly which honestly was one of Moyes failures. It is a big job despite what Whelan says however I think the managers job at Goodison is way beyond Martinez, lets face it he managed to take them to the Championship. Freedman would be a risk but having examined how he turned his previous clubs round he could well be capable of taking us to the next level something Moyes tried so many times yet he only succeeded in failing.
 
I've seen many articles written on this subject extolling the virtues of this guy and that guy but one man has not been mentioned at all, Dougie Freedman at Bolton. The similarities between him and Moyes are startling, his career has been outside the top flight in England, he is a Scot, each club he has been with have improved beyond recognition, he is young and ambitious. Moyes was one of the top students when he achieved his badge, Freedman is the same, his sides score goals regularly which honestly was one of Moyes failures. It is a big job despite what Whelan says however I think the managers job at Goodison is way beyond Martinez, lets face it he managed to take them to the Championship. Freedman would be a risk but having examined how he turned his previous clubs round he could well be capable of taking us to the next level something Moyes tried so many times yet he only succeeded in failing.

But we want better than Moyes. Simples.

Also - paragraphs are where it's at.
 
To expand on Chico's analogy of Everton being a reasonably fit bird from the vs Chelsea thread, Martinez is a reasonably attractive and sweet guy who we could certainly see ourselves building a future with. However, his previous relationship didn't end so well so we act with caution before we let him buy us a drink.

Bravo! Is he ever going to be dirty enough to satisfy your darkest desires either? I'm not so sure.
 
I've seen many articles written on this subject extolling the virtues of this guy and that guy but one man has not been mentioned at all, Dougie Freedman at Bolton. The similarities between him and Moyes are startling, his career has been outside the top flight in England, he is a Scot, each club he has been with have improved beyond recognition, he is young and ambitious. Moyes was one of the top students when he achieved his badge, Freedman is the same, his sides score goals regularly which honestly was one of Moyes failures. It is a big job despite what Whelan says however I think the managers job at Goodison is way beyond Martinez, lets face it he managed to take them to the Championship. Freedman would be a risk but having examined how he turned his previous clubs round he could well be capable of taking us to the next level something Moyes tried so many times yet he only succeeded in failing.

You're joking??

His one full season at Palace he had them finishing 17th (this was last season). How is that "improving beyond recognition"?

He ditched them for Bolton halfway through this season, but still couldn't get Bolton finishing in the play-off places.

What a crock if we end up with some average Championship-manager...one of the many Scots in the game.

When there's people not liking Mackay because of his lack of top-league experience, then Freedman is an absolute definite NO.
 

I've seen many articles written on this subject extolling the virtues of this guy and that guy but one man has not been mentioned at all, Dougie Freedman at Bolton. The similarities between him and Moyes are startling, his career has been outside the top flight in England, he is a Scot, each club he has been with have improved beyond recognition, he is young and ambitious. Moyes was one of the top students when he achieved his badge, Freedman is the same, his sides score goals regularly which honestly was one of Moyes failures. It is a big job despite what Whelan says however I think the managers job at Goodison is way beyond Martinez, lets face it he managed to take them to the Championship. Freedman would be a risk but having examined how he turned his previous clubs round he could well be capable of taking us to the next level something Moyes tried so many times yet he only succeeded in failing.

I work with a couple of Bolton ST holders and for most of the season they were saying Freedman is clueless and seemingly out of his depth. They seemed to warm to him during the run in when results picked and could have nicked a play off place
 
Bravo! Is he ever going to be dirty enough to satisfy your darkest desires either? I'm not so sure.
To further the furthered analogy, Martinez is a Spanish waiter on holiday we've seen charm the pants off some ropey bird from pie country.
We want some Latin loving too but we are worried he'd give us the clap.



So many cliches and stereotypes. Sorry.
 
No chance what so ever.

I beg to differ. If you need inspiration..........

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Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of captivity.

But one hundred years later, we must face the tragic fact that the Negro is still not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize an appalling condition.

In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men would be guaranteed the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check -- a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to open the doors of opportunity to all of God's children. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment and to underestimate the determination of the Negro. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred."
 

I hope we get a continental manager with a good rep so some one like pieriara, Jorge jesus or Guus hiddink. we dont have much time on our side give them full control of transfers and have a crack at top four or get some one in witha vision for the future like tuchel
 
But we want better than Moyes. Simples.

Also - paragraphs are where it's at.

Aren't school lessons on another forum, condescension does you no favours my friend. Incidentally why pluralise simple?(para)

When Moyes was appointed the same was said about him. Freedman left C Palace at the top of the championship having taken over at the end of the previous season when they finished 17th. He took Bolton from relegation fodder to only just missing out on the play offs, ask anyone from that town they played great stuff after a short time under his stewardship. It is my opinion that we need a younger man with fresh ideas, a bit like Moyes and Walter Smith if you like. I do not want to see a continental in charge. It remains a historic fact that we haven't won a trophy under a manager who hasn't played for us, that would be a clear vote against many names on here, including Freedman
 

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