Seamus Colemole
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Moyes sacked by United
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i have been able to resist feeling sorry for the Moyesiah, after all his gobshite utterances early last summer. UNtil today. When I saw Pip beaming outside Carrington with all his fckhead mates talking about how they are going to put smiles back on the faces of the fans. How the hell was this guy ever Everton captain? We must have been out of our brilliant minds. The effing turnip headed twt
As a United fan, the way the whole thing has played off has left a bitter taste in my mouth. Moyes, although clearly out of his depth for the job, remained respectful and gave the impression he was working hard in one of the toughest jobs in the world, especially as it was following SAF.
I'm sure Everton fans are justified in the disdain shown here for the man, with the main gripes being the baines/fellani bids, the lack of compensation when he left, and thinking United > Everton, but I would've at least a few more would've shown support for the man. When he was at Everton I had a lot of respect for him, what he did from an outside perspective was great, and Everton matches were always difficult, which can't be said for most other teams in the league. I think it was sad really to see a man under such pressure be mocked and jeered by the fans last week, given that he'd essentially built most of the team he was playing against and had devoted 10 or so years of his life too the club.
And the class of 92 and certain other player's behaviour (Ferdinand etc) thinking they were above the manager was extremely classless. Managing's not easy and if they think they can walk in and make it all better they're having a laugh. If they can have half the longevity Moyes had and not filter away like most primadonna footballers turned manager ala Keane, Hughes etc they'll have done very well.
I'm sure Everton fans are justified in the disdain shown here for the man, with the main gripes being the baines/fellani bids, the lack of compensation when he left, and thinking United > Everton, but I would've at least a few more would've shown support for the man. When he was at Everton I had a lot of respect for him, what he did from an outside perspective was great, and Everton matches were always difficult, which can't be said for most other teams in the league. I think it was sad really to see a man under such pressure be mocked and jeered by the fans last week, given that he'd essentially built most of the team he was playing against and had devoted 10 or so years of his life too the club.
And the class of 92 and certain other player's behaviour (Ferdinand etc) thinking they were above the manager was extremely classless. Managing's not easy and if they think they can walk in and make it all better they're having a laugh. If they can have half the longevity Moyes had and not filter away like most primadonna footballers turned manager ala Keane, Hughes etc they'll have done very well.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/trying-sack-best-stories-moyes-era-080933579.html
Now that the drama of David Moyes's sacking as Manchester United manager has died down, we get to the fun bit: the drip-feed of stories leaked to the media by disgruntled players telling the best tales of the Scot's appalling stint at Old Trafford.
Thursday's papers are all on the case, with The Sun getting stuck right in by revealing that Moyes first lost his rag with his highly-paid stars back in September, when United were 2-0 down to Manchester City at half-time in the derby.
"This is not even men against boys — this is men against girls," Moyes apparently fumed.
The players' response? They conceded twice in the first five minutes of the second half, and went on to lose the match 4-1.
Rumours of the players having lost faith with the manager emerged consistently as the club's poor season progressed - but it seems that the feeling was mutual.
In January, Moyes apparently screamed at his players that, "you are trying to get me the sack!" after their penalty shoot-out defeat by Sunderland in the League Cup semi-final.
In fairness, the players were probably doing no such thing at that point - but Moyes might have put an idea in to their heads, because just a few weeks later they put in what was perhaps their worst performance of the season as they lost 2-0 at Olympiacos in the Champions League.
At that match, the Daily Mail reports that one of the substitutes apparently shouted, "send him off - we would be better off without him," as Moyes argued with the fourth official on the touchline.
The paper describes the moment as: "A clear act of insubordination [that] astonished those who heard it — but it was not an isolated incident."
On the flight home from Greece, the Mail's piece adds that the players spotted Moyes reading a self-help book called "Good to Great" - something which prompted open sneering among the players.
"We are the Premier League champions," the paper's mole inside the dressing room said. "Why on earth did our manager need to read a book to learn how to manage us?"
Towards the end of the stint, the Mail's report continued, things began to get bad that, "three unused players sat in the stand at one game and began to place bets on just how long their beleaguered manager would survive."
On another occasion, Shinji Kagawa was so late for the trip to Munich for the Champions League second leg that he almost missed the plane - yet reportedly smirked and sniggered his way on board as United club staff desperately pulled strings with airport officials in order to get the Japanese star on board in time.
The Mail's piece suggests that it is exactly the sort of behaviour that Alex Ferguson used to treat with a zero tolerance policy, but that "under Moyes, the niggles just continued to niggle."
Even at training the players apparently lost interest on a regular basis, finding the sessions "boring" and nicknaming one of Moyes's coaching staff 'F*** off [name]', because "that was what some players felt like saying when he started talking."
Most of the names of the players involved in these examples are yet to be revealed - no doubt they'll all come out in an explosive book at some point.
But among those who Moyes is said to have alienated are Robin van Persie and Rio Ferdinand, who apparently heard on the grapevine how Moyes had bad-mouthed both superstars to a fellow Premier League manager following a match.
As the Mail's article concludes, "your employees can make you or break you. Somewhere in Moyes’s big red self-help manual, there is probably a paragraph about that."
Now that the drama of David Moyes's sacking as Manchester United manager has died down, we get to the fun bit: the drip-feed of stories leaked to the media by disgruntled players telling the best tales of the Scot's appalling stint at Old Trafford.
Thursday's papers are all on the case, with The Sun getting stuck right in by revealing that Moyes first lost his rag with his highly-paid stars back in September, when United were 2-0 down to Manchester City at half-time in the derby.
"This is not even men against boys — this is men against girls," Moyes apparently fumed.
The players' response? They conceded twice in the first five minutes of the second half, and went on to lose the match 4-1.
Rumours of the players having lost faith with the manager emerged consistently as the club's poor season progressed - but it seems that the feeling was mutual.
In January, Moyes apparently screamed at his players that, "you are trying to get me the sack!" after their penalty shoot-out defeat by Sunderland in the League Cup semi-final.
In fairness, the players were probably doing no such thing at that point - but Moyes might have put an idea in to their heads, because just a few weeks later they put in what was perhaps their worst performance of the season as they lost 2-0 at Olympiacos in the Champions League.
At that match, the Daily Mail reports that one of the substitutes apparently shouted, "send him off - we would be better off without him," as Moyes argued with the fourth official on the touchline.
The paper describes the moment as: "A clear act of insubordination [that] astonished those who heard it — but it was not an isolated incident."
On the flight home from Greece, the Mail's piece adds that the players spotted Moyes reading a self-help book called "Good to Great" - something which prompted open sneering among the players.
"We are the Premier League champions," the paper's mole inside the dressing room said. "Why on earth did our manager need to read a book to learn how to manage us?"
Towards the end of the stint, the Mail's report continued, things began to get bad that, "three unused players sat in the stand at one game and began to place bets on just how long their beleaguered manager would survive."
On another occasion, Shinji Kagawa was so late for the trip to Munich for the Champions League second leg that he almost missed the plane - yet reportedly smirked and sniggered his way on board as United club staff desperately pulled strings with airport officials in order to get the Japanese star on board in time.
The Mail's piece suggests that it is exactly the sort of behaviour that Alex Ferguson used to treat with a zero tolerance policy, but that "under Moyes, the niggles just continued to niggle."
Even at training the players apparently lost interest on a regular basis, finding the sessions "boring" and nicknaming one of Moyes's coaching staff 'F*** off [name]', because "that was what some players felt like saying when he started talking."
Most of the names of the players involved in these examples are yet to be revealed - no doubt they'll all come out in an explosive book at some point.
But among those who Moyes is said to have alienated are Robin van Persie and Rio Ferdinand, who apparently heard on the grapevine how Moyes had bad-mouthed both superstars to a fellow Premier League manager following a match.
As the Mail's article concludes, "your employees can make you or break you. Somewhere in Moyes’s big red self-help manual, there is probably a paragraph about that."
Love to know who this was, hope it was Neville
I enjoyed a fair slice of your post mate and agree with large parts of whatever pie your eating. The thing I can't agree on is the so called mocking of Moyes, trust me that was pretty mild it had more to do with the level of your teams performance ( or lack of ) under his stewardship that was more amusing. He was paid very well at Everton, very very well, was given 100% control of our club, and was given 100% support from us fans. He took the absolute piss out of us as fans, got what he deserved and ain't done too shabby out of it has he with 5m compo. Wouldn't mind been out if my depth in my job and getting paid off Brewster's millions
peteblue
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By 'clearly out of his depth' I'm assuming the fans are saying that he'd never managed a side previously managed by a brilliant manager, consisting of an overage team full of large ego's but little talent. Apart from Rooney and an injured RVP, the rest of the side were past it or never had it..........yeah, he's never done that......
BirkenheadBlue
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Can't see it being Neville, since he's still there now. Round a much more likely candidate.
deipnosophist
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I wonder what Moyes thinks of Neville now? Et tu Brutus?
mythbuster
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lol
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Aye my first thought was it was Round as well mate, to this day i still have no clue what the hell he does
mythbuster
Player Valuation: £35m
Don't mean to be funny mate, but can you fill me in on what all the other assistant managers in the Premier League do?
Giggs shagged his brother's wife.
If that don't make a fellow a "snide" then I don't know what does.
Jags..class
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Its the lack of remorse from Giggs which is worse. But I cant talk, I'm not perfect and my secret is getting the better of me tonight which causes me not to sleep. Who is perfect these days?
mythbuster
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