Moyes to Sunderland

[Groucho]

Surely that's his managerial career kaput now?

Someone once said, 'remember that sometimes the grass isn't greener at other clubs'.

Can't for the life of me think who.

 

[ilikecheese]

Someone once said, 'remember that sometimes the grass isn't greener at other clubs'.

Can't for the life of me think who.

lol

 

[davek]

Reading on S'land fan forums and listening to a couple of radio phone-in calls and the tone of their fans is not one of anger, it's one step beyond that - they sound like they're at that place where all enthusiasm has been sucked out of them. Resistance is nowhere to be seen.

Moyes has done a masterful job in quietly dumbing them down and easing them into the Championship, almost without a murmur of dissent. It's as sinister bit of manipulation of a crisis as I've seen.

 

[Tubey]

Reading on S'land fan forums and listening to a couple of radio phone-in calls and the tone of their fans is not one of anger, it's one step beyond that - they sound like they're at that place where all enthusiasm has been sucked out of them. Resistance is nowhere to be seen.

Moyes has done a masterful job in quietly dumbing them down and easing them into the Championship, almost without a murmur of dissent. It's as sinister bit of manipulation of a crisis as I've seen.

Bizarre as well. It's like Moyes wanted to destroy them, although I can't see any reason why.

Any lingering myth about the fraud is dead now - thorough justification for those of us who saw through him whilst he was here.

 

[davek]

Bizarre as well. It's like Moyes wanted to destroy them, although I can't see any reason why.

Any lingering myth about the fraud is dead now - thorough justification for those of us who saw through him whilst he was here.

It's a strange situation. He faced almost zero protest. He really does have the media in his pocket. The only time he looked in danger of losing his job - and the media support - was when he threatened to smack a woman in the face. Nothing to do with his demolition of Sunderland.

His record since leaving here has been outrageous. He's hard faced, though, and he'll have his mug in tv studios soon sniffing around for some other mug club to pay him a few million per season.

 

[Albertini78]

Wouldn't be overly surprised to see them relegated again next season... Defoe will move on now, and he's the only decent player they have.... Shambles of a club

We wont go down again man the championship is an utter chod league

 

[PhilM]

Bizarre as well. It's like Moyes wanted to destroy them, although I can't see any reason why.

Not sure if I agree that he may have wanted to destroy them, however you're correct that the whole situation from the outset was peculiar.

You'd think that possibly he saw a need to rebuild the squad in his own image, which the current crop of players wouldn't be able to do.

Although, relegation has certainly dinted his already tarnished reputation which he seems to love so much, therefore I doubt even that's likely.

Also, the signings that he's brought in this year are nothing short of embarrassing and will not help in the Championship - another sign of being lost.

I think he's simply a man out of his depth who is haunted by the failings of Manure and Sociedad mixed with the lost grandeur from his time at us.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Based on the timing of that poll I think for some it was anybody but Martinez.

It was exacally that. To this day if I was given a stright choice of Moyes or Martinez to be our manager (and the very thought of being such a position makes me ill) I'd still chose Moyes over El Fraudo.

 

[Tubey]

Not sure if I agree that he may have wanted to destroy them, however you're correct that the whole situation from the outset was peculiar.

You'd think that possibly he saw a need to rebuild the squad in his own image, which the current crop of players wouldn't be able to do.

Although, relegation has certainly dinted his already tarnished reputation which he seems to love so much, therefore I doubt even that's likely.

Also, the signings that he's brought in this year are nothing short of embarrassing and will not help in the Championship - another sign of being lost.

I think he's simply a man out of his depth who is haunted by the failings of Manure and Sociedad mixed with the lost grandeur from his time at us.

Bold bit is spot on.

Lost all the hunger that made him a success here for a few years; gained all the arrogance and complacency that made him just make sure, over and over again, that there were excuses in place for his own failures.

Massive shame. How bizarre is it to think this is the same man that instilled so much hope and pride in the club when he arrived here? Chalk and cheese.

 

[Nebula]

Bizarre as well. It's like Moyes wanted to destroy them, although I can't see any reason why.

Any lingering myth about the fraud is dead now - thorough justification for those of us who saw through him whilst he was here.

Relegating Sunderland is the only thing he's done that Manchester United fans are happy about. They've waited five years for this day.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Anyone saying Sunderland will be involved in a relegation dogfight next season obviously doesn't watch much Championship football. Aston Villa were monumentally worse then this Sunderland team and yet they currently are sitting safely in mid table and will be looking at the play off's and an automatic promotion push next season. Sunderland will be fine, I expect to see them competing for top spot next season.

 

[John23]

Presume Gibson n Oviedo were injured as they weren't even on the bench. No surprise there not that they'd have made much difference.

 

[Groucho]

Reading on S'land fan forums and listening to a couple of radio phone-in calls and the tone of their fans is not one of anger, it's one step beyond that - they sound like they're at that place where all enthusiasm has been sucked out of them. Resistance is nowhere to be seen.

Moyes has done a masterful job in quietly dumbing them down and easing them into the Championship, almost without a murmur of dissent. It's as sinister bit of manipulation of a crisis as I've seen.

Is 7th a play off place lol

 

[ilikecheese]

Hahaha

 

[davek]

Following confirmation of the club’s relegation from the Premier League today, Sunderland AFC chairman Ellis Short said:

“Like any supporter, my initial reaction is one of sadness, disappointment, anger and frustration. After 10 consecutive seasons as a top-flight club, the second longest in our 138-year history, it is hard for everyone to take.

“It is an especially cruel blow for our supporters, who have shown tremendous faith in the club. They backed the team, home and away, in huge numbers throughout the season and it is fair to say this season they have once again been relentless in their support. I am truly sorry that we have not been able to retain our top-flight status for them.

“I acknowledge that during my ownership mistakes have been made, particularly in the area of player recruitment, and as a result we have found ourselves struggling to survive in recent seasons. We had massive disruption during the summer transfer window and an unprecedented number of injuries throughout the season. These are difficulties which we have been unable to overcome and we are paying the price for that now.

“We need to improve, both on and off the field, and despite the bitter disappointment of today there is a strong determination to do so throughout the club. There is significant work to be done over the summer and when the season is concluded, we intend to share our plans to move forward with our supporters”.

Not what you'd want to hear right now if you were a Sunderland fan. I'd want a lot of heads to be rolling