Moyes to Sunderland

[Gwladysstreetlad]

One excellent season of football and bossing other teams off the park was worth 11 seasons of drudgery under Moyes. It gave us our appetite back to be the best again. Ironically in that respect Martinez was the architect of his own demise. Raised expectations buried him under a mountain of expectation.

Moyes will end up back at PNE - I've though that for some time. His career trajectory since he left us has shown him to be exactly what he is: a lower league manager. And, btw, he'd have a scrap on his hands securing the PNE job.

Oh Dave, I expected better from you mate, this is a massive let down. I wanted more doublethink nonsense and over hype for Martinez. I'm disappointed.

One season of 'bossing teams off the park'? Did you miss the part where we finished fifth? Or the 4-0 humping at castle grayskull? Or the 3-2 defeat to Crystal Palace? Or the collapse in both cup competitions? It was a good season, I've never denied it but it was far from perfect and had been well over hyped by people like yourself with an agenda.

Eleven seasons of drudgery?! Get a grip mate. It wasn't anything like that at all. I've been going to Goodison week in and week out for years now and Moyes time here was far from drudgery or whatever silly description you want to give it.

In Moyes first full season we finished 7th which was our second highest finish of the Premier League era at the time. His second season was a disaster no doubt about it but what came after that Dave? Oh that's right we finished 4th! Which is a much more tangible achievement then finishing fifth with seventy two points. During Moyes time we only had two seasons outside the top half of the Premiership and one of them had a remarkable second half of the season turnaround. We played some decent stuff during the Moyes era and only people with short memories or agendas chose not to see that.

Martinez was indeed the architect of his own demise but it was his own ego and stupidity that cost him in the end. That and his lack of any actual talent.

Moyes will do fine imo. If he's left to actually build something at Sunderland he will make them a good top half side and make them hard to beat. He certainly won't end up at the likes of Preston again but if he did they'd gain a very good manager for their level. Because Moyes has abilities for everyone to see, he's a very frustrating and often negative manager but he knows his business and if he's left alone he'll work wonders for Sunderland.

 

[edge]

Still hope he keeps Sunderland up, can't see how he is meant to do it under that chairman.
They need players in and quickly to stand any chance.

 

[davek]

Well in Moyesie. Another nail in the coffin.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Moyes will be fine

Once they get that first win, they'll get over the hump

I'm predicting they'll end up in 16th with 42 points

Currently on 19th with 15 points

This prediction may have been overly fanciful...

 

[COYBL25]

Currently on 19th with 15 points

This prediction may have been overly fanciful...

Vaulting yourself

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Vaulting yourself

Yup

They might finish 16th still but no way are they getting 42 points

That was an insane prediction on my part

 

[Falcao]

 

[Goat]

Didnt even know what happened to him.


On 29 August 2016, Lescott joined Superleague Greece side AEK Athens on a two-year contract.[41] The 34-year-old defender suffered a detached cartilage in his knee while cycling in his apartment. The injury ruled Lescott out for the remainder of the season. The player denied to get help from the team's doctors and insisted to complete his rehabilitation in the UK. AEK Athens did not agree to the player's wishes and additional demands, which resulted for his contract to be terminated on November 14, 2016 by mutual consent

 

[canuckblue]

Didnt even know what happened to him.


On 29 August 2016, Lescott joined Superleague Greece side AEK Athens on a two-year contract.[41] The 34-year-old defender suffered a detached cartilage in his knee while cycling in his apartment. The injury ruled Lescott out for the remainder of the season. The player denied to get help from the team's doctors and insisted to complete his rehabilitation in the UK. AEK Athens did not agree to the player's wishes and additional demands, which resulted for his contract to be terminated on November 14, 2016 by mutual consent

Small wonder if he kept banging into the walls all the time...

 

[Goat]

David Moyes has warned Sunderland supporters not to expect any transfer market alchemy from him this month.

“I’d be kidding you on if I said the players we’re hoping to bring in this month are going to make a big difference because, first of all, we probably couldn’t get that level of player and, secondly, we probably wouldn’t have the finances to do that,” said Sunderland’s manager ahead of Saturday’s trip to West Brom. “To suggest that a player we might bring in would be making a big difference would not be correct.”

Such brutal honesty may prompt mixed feelings among fans who saw Sam Allardyce’s acquisition of Lamine Koné, Wahbi Khazri and Jan Kirchhoff this time last year facilitate a last gasp escape from relegation. “I think the players that came in at the same time last year did make a big difference and did a good job,” said Moyes. “But I think this season a lot will be dictated by us getting some of our own players back into the squad following injuries and the Africa Cup of Nations.”

Sunderland’s £140m debt and 19th position in the Premier League both dictate that Allardyce’s successor has strictly limited room for transfer market manoeuvre but Moyes did have a £10m bid for Robbie Brady turned down by Norwich City earlier this week.

Even so, he concedes he is likely to need to sell to buy. “You’ve just got to trust me that I’ll be finding ways to try to balance the books the best I can,” said a man who has already reached his limit of two domestic loans after borrowing Adnan Januzaj and Jason Denayer from Manchester United and Manchester City respectively during the summer. “I’d say we’ll probably be looking at free agents and (overseas) loans.”

Meanwhile Moyes has ordered Vito Mannone, the goalkeeper currently deputising for the injured Jordan Pickford, to up his standards, following a series of recent mistakes. “I’ve told Vito about things he should have saved in the last few games,” he said. “I’ve told him I’m disappointed.”

@davek

 

[ijjysmith]

David Moyes has warned Sunderland supporters not to expect any transfer market alchemy from him this month.

“I’d be kidding you on if I said the players we’re hoping to bring in this month are going to make a big difference because, first of all, we probably couldn’t get that level of player and, secondly, we probably wouldn’t have the finances to do that,” said Sunderland’s manager ahead of Saturday’s trip to West Brom. “To suggest that a player we might bring in would be making a big difference would not be correct.”

That must be very enticing and encouraging for any player thinking of going to Sunderland.

 

[COYBL25]

David Moyes has warned Sunderland supporters not to expect any transfer market alchemy from him this month.

“I’d be kidding you on if I said the players we’re hoping to bring in this month are going to make a big difference because, first of all, we probably couldn’t get that level of player and, secondly, we probably wouldn’t have the finances to do that,” said Sunderland’s manager ahead of Saturday’s trip to West Brom. “To suggest that a player we might bring in would be making a big difference would not be correct.”

Such brutal honesty may prompt mixed feelings among fans who saw Sam Allardyce’s acquisition of Lamine Koné, Wahbi Khazri and Jan Kirchhoff this time last year facilitate a last gasp escape from relegation. “I think the players that came in at the same time last year did make a big difference and did a good job,” said Moyes. “But I think this season a lot will be dictated by us getting some of our own players back into the squad following injuries and the Africa Cup of Nations.”

Sunderland’s £140m debt and 19th position in the Premier League both dictate that Allardyce’s successor has strictly limited room for transfer market manoeuvre but Moyes did have a £10m bid for Robbie Brady turned down by Norwich City earlier this week.

Even so, he concedes he is likely to need to sell to buy. “You’ve just got to trust me that I’ll be finding ways to try to balance the books the best I can,” said a man who has already reached his limit of two domestic loans after borrowing Adnan Januzaj and Jason Denayer from Manchester United and Manchester City respectively during the summer. “I’d say we’ll probably be looking at free agents and (overseas) loans.”

Meanwhile Moyes has ordered Vito Mannone, the goalkeeper currently deputising for the injured Jordan Pickford, to up his standards, following a series of recent mistakes. “I’ve told Vito about things he should have saved in the last few games,” he said. “I’ve told him I’m disappointed.”

@davek

Makes his " knives to a gunfight " speech, seem quite optimistic !

 

[Rook]

David Moyes has warned Sunderland supporters not to expect any transfer market alchemy from him this month.

“I’d be kidding you on if I said the players we’re hoping to bring in this month are going to make a big difference because, first of all, we probably couldn’t get that level of player and, secondly, we probably wouldn’t have the finances to do that,” said Sunderland’s manager ahead of Saturday’s trip to West Brom. “To suggest that a player we might bring in would be making a big difference would not be correct.”

Such brutal honesty may prompt mixed feelings among fans who saw Sam Allardyce’s acquisition of Lamine Koné, Wahbi Khazri and Jan Kirchhoff this time last year facilitate a last gasp escape from relegation. “I think the players that came in at the same time last year did make a big difference and did a good job,” said Moyes. “But I think this season a lot will be dictated by us getting some of our own players back into the squad following injuries and the Africa Cup of Nations.”

Sunderland’s £140m debt and 19th position in the Premier League both dictate that Allardyce’s successor has strictly limited room for transfer market manoeuvre but Moyes did have a £10m bid for Robbie Brady turned down by Norwich City earlier this week.

Even so, he concedes he is likely to need to sell to buy. “You’ve just got to trust me that I’ll be finding ways to try to balance the books the best I can,” said a man who has already reached his limit of two domestic loans after borrowing Adnan Januzaj and Jason Denayer from Manchester United and Manchester City respectively during the summer. “I’d say we’ll probably be looking at free agents and (overseas) loans.”

Meanwhile Moyes has ordered Vito Mannone, the goalkeeper currently deputising for the injured Jordan Pickford, to up his standards, following a series of recent mistakes. “I’ve told Vito about things he should have saved in the last few games,” he said. “I’ve told him I’m disappointed.”

@davek

He's trying to get fired now. 15M + Gibson, Robles/Stek, Jags, and Kone for Pickford. All 4 of them would start on that side.

 

[NewRadical]

That must be very enticing and encouraging for any player thinking of going to Sunderland.

Indeed. He said more or less the exact same thing during the summer transfer window.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

He's doing his best to manage expectations isn't he?