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Tom Hughes said:
And no Kings Dock which wouldve averted the bulk of the debt.
The rest has also ALL been on this chairman's watch.... he is the only common denominator!
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I see ALL on the chairman's watch, at least you understand Bramley Moore is part of his legacy.
However I still don't understand what's that has got to do with MSP potentially buying shares from Moshiri, as stated in the thread title.
 
nonstripdzebra said:
Broad thoughts on MSP

I think there is reason for speculation in relation to the capital this group could invest. Based on their other products it doesnt seem like we will be getting high rolling expenses to really compete at the top end transfer wise. That though is something likely in the majority of prospective buyers. Removed of nation states investing, Thats likely more in our vein. Personally I welcome having not to involve questionable politics as much as possible.

What is interesting though is the level of football investments and where they are. The group has invested interest in Brondby, Augsburg, and Estoril (to the amount I am not sure). Rightfully we would be at the top of that pyramid which could be a good thing. Quick glance at those squads and they tend to lean younger which likely would aid a more competent model and sell on strategy. More importantly though these are very good markets to have a foothold in in Portugal, Denmark and Germany. Those are some of the best development leagues in Europe. If Everton had an inroads through other MSP investments from said clubs we could be in a very nice position in streamlining recruitment which we have been awful at under Moshiri. Those teams already have a fair bit that could be justified targets for the premier league. Having networks in those leagues would be a huge benefit and or anecdote to large sums likely not being invested in-division.

I am more for a controlling stake obviously then the a minor share. But when an owner has so much of the pie under his name like Moshiri that does become difficult. Let alone the backdrop table wise as this news or negotiation gets out. There are some concerns as well with MSP but at a glance I would prefer them then the status quo and think we coudl do a lot worse.
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We just need competent people involved within the football club that know how to run it as a business, progress on and off the pitch and a period of stability
 
mahermi1 said:
These people" running it" I say that term loosely, won't utilise it, I promise you that, look at our financial situation, hopefully we have a professional Chairman, CEO and board of Directors in place that will utilise and take advantage of it. Believe me if Kenwright and Co are still pulling the strings it won't make much difference at all.
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I know that was the point I was making.
 
4737carlin said:
I see ALL on the chairman's watch, at least you understand Bramley Moore is part of his legacy.
However I still don't understand what's that has got to do with MSP potentially buying shares from Moshiri, as stated in the thread title.
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You're the one who mentioned the stadium as benefitting the club. Which part of BMD has Kenwright funded again? His only legacy is the loss of revenue and the massive debt that we'll now have as a result of his wrecking the Kings Dock opportunity 20 yrs ago..... not to mention comfortably the longest trophyless period in the clubs history and the multitude of well documented failures and lies that goes with it all.
 
Tom Hughes said:
You're the one who mentioned the stadium as benefitting the club. Which part of BMD has Kenwright funded again? His only legacy is the loss of revenue and the massive debt that we'll now have as a result of his wrecking the Kings Dock opportunity 20 yrs ago..... not to mention comfortably the longest trophyless period in the clubs history and the multitude of well documented failures and lies that goes with it all.
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The stadium doesn't benefit the club if Moshiri stays in charge and running us like he has been.
We need MSP to.buy us, not just a small percentage
 

One Careful owner, and a good runner.

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Tom Hughes said:
The absent landlord just funds the club and has also funded the stadium in its entirety, so if there is any benefit it will be down to him. By definition, the chairman and his board run the club!
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Should run the club but they haven't been allowed to without interfering Farhad having an input and making the major decisions that have damaged us.
This is why we need MSP to take over, and not just buying in, allowing Moshiri to continue running us into the ground, we need them to buy in and have full control.
 
MikeH72 said:
Why the hell are people still arguing about who is better out of Kenwright and Moshiri, as if they’re not both idiots and complicit in the destruction of the club?
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No-one is arguing about who is better. One person is continually arguing that Kenwright has had no responsibility in our club's decline..... which started long before any of us had ever heard of Moshiri.
 

4737carlin said:
Should run the club but they haven't been allowed to without interfering Farhad having an input and making the major decisions that have damaged us.
This is why we need MSP to take over, and not just buying in, allowing Moshiri to continue running us into the ground, we need them to buy in and have full control.
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Yet, not a single word of dissent from the world's greatest Evertonian. There was next to no mention of Moshiri interfering for the first 2 years or so of his involvement, and throughout the entire time Kenwright has always been insistent that he's been driving every decision and every signing, and has never claimed otherwise.

Only after the squandering of an absolute fortune on multiple rubbish players and failed managers has there been any mention of Moshiri's intervention..... No-one is saying Moshiri is blameless, only you are saying Kenwright is!
 
Tom Hughes said:
Yet, not a single word of dissent from the world's greatest Evertonian. There was next to no mention of Moshiri interfering for the first 2 years or so of his involvement, and throughout the entire time Kenwright has always been insistent that he's been driving every decision and every signing, and has never claimed otherwise.

Only after the squandering of an absolute fortune on multiple rubbish players and failed managers has there been any mention of Moshiri's intervention..... No-one is saying Moshiri is blameless, only you are saying Kenwright is!
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Again, this is the MSP thread, what's this obsession with talking about people who have got nothing to do with Farhads negatiostons on the shares he owns.

Would you be happy if Farhad is running the club heat season? Because he will be if MSP only get a 25% slice
 
Efcjake said:
How has this tedious bell turning yet another thread into a passionate defence of all things Kenwright?

Ffs this is about MSP.

They scare the life out of me.
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Tom is obsessed with the previous majority share holder thats why, this thread is about MSP who are planning to maybe buy a portion of shares off Moshiri, something he refuses to comment on.
Anyway why be scared of MSP? Nobody could be worse then Farhad
 

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