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Villa_Fan said:
It would also mean there is more chance of finding a future buyer. If for example MSP invest 300m and in 3 years time they believe their 300m is worth 1Bn they may decide to cash in and realise their 300% profit. I would guess that MSP would have a far better network to find a future buyer of EFC than Moshiri would
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The way Everton are at the moment you will be getting a sizeable profit when it ever comes to selling lets hope if they do decide to sell they sell to the right buyer not the one who offers the most but that is for a future conversation, l am just look forward to a new dawn and I am going to try and enjoy the ride.
 
OnlyTheBestIsGoodEnough said:
The way Everton are at the moment you will be getting a sizeable profit when it ever comes to selling lets hope if they do decide to sell they sell to the right buyer not the one who offers the most but that is for a future conversation, l am just look forward to a new dawn and I am going to try and enjoy the ride.
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MSP are smart, they are buying into Everton at their weakest and I am sure they are getting their pound of flesh from Moshiri and Bill. If/when they do sell I expect they will be smart too. As a sports investment company, they would not want to damage their reputation by selling to the wrong person. I am sure you wouldn't get someone like Tony Xia who owned us for a while and nearly put us out of business
 
There is a bit of a deliberate misinterpretation of the original post expressing concerns that MSP would only focus on profit. It wasn’t positing “asset stripping”, simply a minimalist approach to keeping heads above water with little or no emotional connection to the club and fans. That is realistic.

MSP are an investment fund run on VC principles. They want operational control and will focus on improving cash flow. Some of that will potentially be incremental commercial growth. Some of it will be avoiding waste eg excessive fees and wages. In the short-term they will want interest on their loans but their history suggests they will convert the loans to shares.

Their MO is slightly unusual in that hitherto in football they have ALWAYS acted as the foot in the door for another subsequent majority investor, David Blitzer. We should expect them to see their medium term goal as being minority investor and lender to Blitzer/ANO.

Asset stripping would be counter productive but any investment they OK beyond the stadium is going to be limited, highly targeted and designed to increase long-term value. IMO they would be more likely to invest in eg data/analytics, sports science and academy improvements than in transfers, where they will look for us to be self-funding and probably net cash generative (not necessarily in a single window but over eg a two year timeline).

They would struggle to be worse than what we have endured and realistically they should slowly improve us. They are not going to bankroll a splurge. That is probably a good thing.

We all need to have sensible expectations. They are not philanthropic but hopefully they will be competent. That would be a big upgrade!
 
Toffe3m4n said:
As an aside - isn't this kinda what Shinawatra did with City before Mansour came in?
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And to go one step further - didn't Mansour pay something like 200M for City in 2008? And now their value is estimated at 4B? And for a team that doesn't even own it's stadium...FFS. In fairness, he has pumped A LOT of cash into the club but that's still a serious ROI.

And I think why a lot of people who have a lot of money are looking at football clubs as a long-term growth investment. Faceless organizations are becoming the norm for pro sports teams.
 
MrGrumpy said:
Make far more money by making Everton profitable in the 1st place, the stadium will massively increase our value. If we are in the PL still.

No sure where people get this idea from about Americans being tight and only in it for profit
The RS spend a fortune
Chelsea fella spent stupid money
It’s have spent a fortune(yes they take money out but still spend)
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The irony is, by reducing costs and increasing income, we’d be able to spend more on transfers in the future.
Comparisons with our beloved neighbours are pointless. They had the the fifth highest turnover in world football last year, and their wages to turnover ratio is somewhere around 60%.
They are well run as a business.
we need to be well run to grow rather than being in a death spiral
 


toffee66 said:
There is a bit of a deliberate misinterpretation of the original post expressing concerns that MSP would only focus on profit. It wasn’t positing “asset stripping”, simply a minimalist approach to keeping heads above water with little or no emotional connection to the club and fans. That is realistic.

MSP are an investment fund run on VC principles. They want operational control and will focus on improving cash flow. Some of that will potentially be incremental commercial growth. Some of it will be avoiding waste eg excessive fees and wages. In the short-term they will want interest on their loans but their history suggests they will convert the loans to shares.

Their MO is slightly unusual in that hitherto in football they have ALWAYS acted as the foot in the door for another subsequent majority investor, David Blitzer. We should expect them to see their medium term goal as being minority investor and lender to Blitzer/ANO.

Asset stripping would be counter productive but any investment they OK beyond the stadium is going to be limited, highly targeted and designed to increase long-term value. IMO they would be more likely to invest in eg data/analytics, sports science and academy improvements than in transfers, where they will look for us to be self-funding and probably net cash generative (not necessarily in a single window but over eg a two year timeline).

They would struggle to be worse than what we have endured and realistically they should slowly improve us. They are not going to bankroll a splurge. That is probably a good thing.

We all need to have sensible expectations. They are not philanthropic but hopefully they will be competent. That would be a big upgrade!
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Sounds great to me!
 
I lack the impressive financial knowledge and expertise on display in this thread. It must be truly stressful to observe our mismanagement. I just have to relax, enjoy the sun and look forward to another season in the top flight (excepting of course the 2 Derby games).
The wisdom shown on this thread should be shared with the new EFC board, so past errors will not be repeated. Problem is they will never read it.
 
everton1953 said:
I lack the impressive financial knowledge and expertise on display in this thread. It must be truly stressful to observe our mismanagement. I just have to relax, enjoy the sun and look forward to another season in the top flight (excepting of course the 2 Derby games).
The wisdom shown on this thread should be shared with the new EFC board, so past errors will not be repeated. Problem is they will never read it.
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You're very bizarre, you never engage in conversation, you just sit and throw barbs at fellow blues who are having a discussion, from your ivory tower looking down on us plebs. I don't know why you bother you obviously feel everyone talks wham so why even come on the site?
 

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