2021/22 Nathan Patterson

[welshtoffee]

Dave getting splatted all over the spot here like a cheap hooker.

Thoroughly deserved as well

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Heat map off 6 sub appearances.

Almost too hilarious.

13 appearances for 862 minutes or 9 and a half full games. How much more would you be expecting for a 17/18 year old?

 

[Marius57]

Heat map off 6 sub appearances.

Almost too hilarious.

Played 14 times that season.

So it's based off more than his 1 appearance you have seen him make for Everton which you consider enough to write him off.

 

[Nymzee]

I think what we've really seen in the thread is an acknowledgement (at last) that Patterson has to be played high up the pitch to get anything out of him and hand him no defensive duties in doing that, and that if we play him we have to avoid playing a back four.

That's at least progress.

You keep reading those hieroglyphs, David.

 

[Walken]

I dont think that's remotley happened, do you?

More substantially: the positioning on the pitch of Patterson is much more advanced than a normal WB will play. He's basically crowding out Gordon. That represents a problem as to where to deploy Gordon if he continues this (Lampard) into the PL season.

This is why Coleman will continually be preferred, as he makes matters much more simple for Lampard. Seamus can play in a back three as a RWB who overlaps Gordon when he can, but doesn't crowd him out; and he also slots into a back four too.

When, even in his peak has Coleman been effective as a wingback for a sustained period?

 

[Goat]

I think what we've really seen in the thread is an acknowledgement (at last) that Patterson has to be played high up the pitch to get anything out of him and hand him no defensive duties in doing that, and that if we play him we have to avoid playing a back four.

That's at least progress.

Nobody but you is saying that.

 

[davek]

Let's see what happens with the next bit of evidence at the weekend. He'll have to pull his weight in defence against a very handy team. That'll give us an idea of how costly playing him high up the pitch in the PL will be or not.

 

[davek]

When, even in his peak has Coleman been effective as a wingback for a sustained period?

Coleman has been our most consistently good player for the last generation.

 

[davek]

Nobody but you is saying that.

Go and have a read of the thread post-Minnesota United result.

 

[Goat]

Go and have a read of the thread post-Minnesota United result.

Yeah, that was then, this is now.

 

[Walken]

Coleman has been our most consistently good player for the last generation.

I'll refer you to the previous question, when has Coleman been effective as a wing back for a sustained period?

 

[Jebus_lives]

I think what we've really seen in the thread is an acknowledgement (at last) that Patterson has to be played high up the pitch to get anything out of him and hand him no defensive duties in doing that, and that if we play him we have to avoid playing a back four.

That's at least progress.

I don't think we have the team capability to play attacking fullbacks in a back 4.

 

[blulouie]

Woooaaaah
Dave's beeh holed below the water line here .
Going down fighting tho.

Ah well there's plenty other threads @davek .

 

[Joey66]

First view of him - played well - but it's a big step-up if he plays v Chelsea ..... He has to learn looked good v Blackpool TBH -

 

[TheNinja]

That's simply turned around by saying that we cant play 4 at the back if Patterson is in the team.

Or in the team instructions, he's told to play more defensively which he can do, or we play a DM who can drop back to become a third CB if required when defending. Nothing is as linear as you're trying to make it and we don't look like playing 4 at the back anytime soon anyway.

It's a myth you've invented that he 'can't' defend. Most of our defence 'can't defend' but have got away with it for this long, not sure why you're singling him out constantly? I prefer to listen to the ex professional footballers who have stated he's good defensively and attacking, and will be a star in years to come thanks.