New Everton Manager

[orly]

Also, it's massively incongruous to ignore the context of the teams he's managing. Just saying "15th in the prem" means something completely different if he's managing Brighton than if he's managing Everton or Arsenal or Liverpool.

And you can say what you want about Sweden, but in any league system if you take a team from the 4th tier to the first that's an achievement

No, it's not at all. Last season he finished behind a Southampton side that fell apart completely and a god-awful Palace side, let alone a Newcastle side that was awful all season. The season before that, all of the above plus Burnley and Sheffield United. Let's not pretend these are decent outfits.

 

[Handball]

Is there anyone on here who is confident that the new manager isn't going to be one of Potter, Ralfy Arsenscuttle or Howe?
If there is, please cheer me up.

 

[MikeH72]

"Lads score more, go get em!"

We finished 8th the other year and our top scorer was Rooney on 10 and top scorer from open play was Niasse with 8.

 

[Gilbert..]

His answer to not having a decent goalscorer was to bring in career 1 in 5 striker Danny Welbeck as well.

Yeah. Apparently mbappe didnt like the area and said he wouldnt settle. Coz thats usualy brightons level.

 

[The_La]

No, it's not at all. Last season he finished behind a Southampton side that fell apart completely and a god-awful Palace side, let alone a Newcastle side that was awful all season. The season before that, all of the above plus Burnley and Sheffield United. Let's not pretend these are decent outfits.

But he's managing Brighton. Who have a weaker squad and fewer resources than all those you mentioned

 

[The_La]

But he's managing Brighton. Who have a weaker squad and fewer resources than all those you mentioned

No, it's not at all. Last season he finished behind a Southampton side that fell apart completely and a god-awful Palace side, let alone a Newcastle side that was awful all season. The season before that, all of the above plus Burnley and Sheffield United. Let's not pretend these are decent outfits.

Just to be clear, I didn't vote for potter and he's not top of my list. But your arguments against him are nonsense imho

 

[TheBigIguana]

I must admit the idea of Potter as Everton boss holds an increasingly (morbid?) fascination for me.

Still can't believe his name is being mentioned semi-seriously (or even seriously). It all just seemed to relate to the cranks and WUMs partaking in the Carlo wars during the season.

Fascinating because we'd switch manager profile dramatically. That has an effect on the squad. What would James make of him, for instance?

What profile of player would he look to sign with a good budget? Again, I'd expect a shift in policy. Would he be more aligned to the 'Brands signings' rather than big names?

Would he get time and patience? Or would we just end up with another round of mismatched signings to further unbalance a messed up squad?

So much fun to be had!

Answering the questions in order:
No clue but not sure James has a lot of options, young high potential and hopefully ambitious enough to try hard for however long they're here, Brands signings, hopefully internally yes but obviously not from the fans, hopefully not.

 

[Debunkology]

Hang on, Potter's league finishes are:

Osterund : 8th, 5th in a tinpot league
Swansea: 10th in the Championship
Brighton: 15th, 16th


And people genuinely think there is an argument for appointing him. Holy wow.

Selectively ignoring his two league titles, cup win and manager of the year awards

 

[orly]

But he's managing Brighton. Who have a weaker squad and fewer resources than all those you mentioned

Let's pretend that's true - and it's not. How do we account for newly relegated Swansea in the 2018-2019 season?

He finished 10th, they finished 6th and 4th the following two seasons after he'd left. I can see the mental gymnastics down the runway already - he'd "set them up to succeed".

 

[TheBigIguana]

We finished 8th the other year and our top scorer was Rooney on 10 and top scorer from open play was Niasse with 8.

And for some reason people could see in that instance that Sam was not a good idea to stick with. It's the same concept here but reverse it.

Also Maupay had like 8 too, so I'm not sure what the point is.

 

[nsno-chris]

It's like finishing top half with Fleetwood Town. Nah achieved nothing there.

No it’s not. Not one bit.

It’s the equivalent of getting Gretna to the Europe; which also happened.

 

[orly]

Selectively ignoring his two league titles, cup win and manager of the year awards

In a lower league in Sweden.

 

[MikeH72]

And for some reason people could see in that instance that Sam was not a good idea to stick with. It's the same concept here but reverse it.

Also Maupay had like 8 too, so I'm not sure what the point is.

The point is you’re not obliged to finish 16th just because your strikers are crap.

 

[orly]

Just to be clear, I didn't vote for potter and he's not top of my list. But your arguments against him are nonsense imho

That he is a manager with a hopeless track record in the English game and a style of football that sets him up to fail?

Seems a pretty sound argument to me.

 

[orly]

The point is you’re not obliged to finish 16th just because your strikers are crap.

Marcus Bent just widdles all over this argument doesn't he.